How much do we know about the "Block-Voting" doctrine of the Iglesia ni Cristo® Unipersonal Corporation? How many adherents do the INC® has today that their supposed number could ensure a winner when their actual number is being held from the public?
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How many elligible Iglesia® voters are going to the polls tomorrow to actually vote and how many would be following their doctrine of pagkakaisa? And how many would be defying their elders instead?
We do not know. Unless someone would be monitoring them within the polling stations who'd be turning against their own leader's choice.
Relying on rumors the Iglesia ni Cristo® is bragging an an estimated 5 million votes from its members. For me, that's presumptuous!
We all know that they don't have such a huge number. Or if they have, a solid vote from the INC® is impossible. Well, all we know is that the Iglesia ni Cristo® is playing its political trick again making us believe a myth that their number is powerful enough to determine who would win the elections.
Among the Philippine presidential candidates, the council of elders of the cult founded by Felix Manalo in 1914 finally decided to throw their support to Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino III whose popularity is credited, not to the Iglesia ni Cristo® myth but thanks to his devout Catholic parents who are members of Christ's ONLY TRUE CHURCH.
Unlike the Iglesia ni Cristo®, Christ's true Church-- the Catholic Church do not endorse any candidate. Instead the choice is left to individuals according to the dictates of their consciences [Catholic Info]. The Catholic Church respects the individual freedom everyone has however what the Church can do is to ensure there's a peaceful and orderly elections.
The block-voting of the Iglesia ni Cristo® has sparked much controversy both in political and spiritual forums in the internet. Some would argue that this doctrine of the cult directly violates that of our Constitution which prohibits the meddling of spiritual leaders into the affairs of the government. For it's 95 years, the Iglesia ni Cristo® has contributed nothing to the development of the entire nation. Their housing projects are directed only to its members, something not to be proud of.
So how many member do the Iglesia ni Cristo® has today? No one knows. It's one of the Iglesia ni Cristo's many hidden SECRETS.
Significantly, we can refer to how much the ALAGAD PARTY LIST (an Iglesia ni Cristo Party List). From it's vote, we can estimate how many are its members. According to this blog, the actual votes the ALAGAD PARTY LIST got was ONLY 340,977 that is Three Hundred Forty Thousand Nine Hundred Seventy-Seven only. That means they've got just only that much. Although the Philippine Inquirer says their number reaches only 1.8 million according to National Statistic Office 2000 census.
Significantly, we can refer to how much the ALAGAD PARTY LIST (an Iglesia ni Cristo Party List). From it's vote, we can estimate how many are its members. According to this blog, the actual votes the ALAGAD PARTY LIST got was ONLY 340,977 that is Three Hundred Forty Thousand Nine Hundred Seventy-Seven only. That means they've got just only that much. Although the Philippine Inquirer says their number reaches only 1.8 million according to National Statistic Office 2000 census.
"In the 2000 census, the National Statistics Office put the INC membership in the country at 1.8 million or around 2.3 percent of the total population [emphasis mine]."
How much? It's just 2.3 percent of the total population of the entire country. But here is the most damaging part. The late Erano Manalo admitted that fact! "...dinadaya ang numero.."[they (their Ministers) are cheating their numbers...](Watch YouTube)
Just don't get the credit Iglesia ni Cristo®. Before its central administration even throw their support to Noynoy he was already leading in poll surveys rivaling Villar and Erap (whom they supported in 1998 but now they junked him). Thanks to the support of strong business groups, democracy advocates, die-hard Cory-Ninoy fans and Catholic religious communities including priests who are indebted to his parents-- that helped him most likely to win -- not the Iglesia ni Cristo® myth.
A CHALLENGE TO THE IGLESIA NI CRISTO® ADMINISTRATION!
Let's test their power instead. Its central administration should endorse one of its members to run for Presidency. Let's see if their block-voting could help him/her win. Then we can be sure that they have the the magic number to make a candidate win.
But so far, the Iglesia ni Cristo®'s doctrine of pagkakaisa in block-voting IS JUST A MYTH!
L.o.l na hahahahaha pa!! Hindi lahat ng lugar e ALAGAD ang ibinoboto ng Iglesia ni Cristo. Nakakatawa naman ito hahahaha. . . Sa susun0d mag research kang mabuti.
ReplyDeleteL.o.l na hahahahaha pa!! Hindi lahat ng lugar e ALAGAD ang ibinoboto ng Iglesia ni Cristo. Nakakatawa naman ito hahahaha. . . Sa susun0d mag research kang mabuti.
ReplyDeleteL.o.l na hahahahaha pa!! Hindi lahat ng lugar e ALAGAD ang ibinoboto ng Iglesia ni Cristo. Nakakatawa naman ito hahahaha. . . Sa susun0d mag research kang mabuti.
ReplyDeleteOh, so where can I research for an accurate number of INC affiliates? Do you have any official website or at least an official directory that says something about your number?
ReplyDeleteN-O-N-E!
At nagtatago ka pa sa pangalang Matilda?!
Well, so far my data is correct and all you can do is to fret out and accuse me of wrong information when you have no better alternative.
shooo...
win or lose ang mga candidato namin _hindi po kami apektado dahil ang priority naming mga IGLESIA NI CRISTO ang kaisahan namin--panalo pa rin kami
Deletesa mga hindi po nakakakilala o nakakaalam sa IGLESIA NI CRISTO "Magsuri po kayo... hindi po kayo magsisisi...kung makikinig lang po kayo sa mga aral ng INC sa radio sa television, sa social media mas madadagdagan pa po ang kaalaman ninyo tungkol sa IGLESIA---wala rin naman pong magpipilit sa inyo na maging member ng IGLESIA NI CRISTO---dahil ang pagpasok po sa IGLESIA NI CRISTO ay wala pong pinipilit at hindi po basta bastang maging isang Iglesia ni Cristo...
WELCOME na WELCOME po kayo!!! salamat po.
win or lose ang mga candidato namin _hindi po kami apektado dahil ang priority naming mga IGLESIA NI CRISTO ang kaisahan namin--panalo pa rin kami
Deletesa mga hindi po nakakakilala o nakakaalam sa IGLESIA NI CRISTO "Magsuri po kayo... hindi po kayo magsisisi...kung makikinig lang po kayo sa mga aral ng INC sa radio sa television, sa social media mas madadagdagan pa po ang kaalaman ninyo tungkol sa IGLESIA---wala rin naman pong magpipilit sa inyo na maging member ng IGLESIA NI CRISTO---dahil ang pagpasok po sa IGLESIA NI CRISTO ay wala pong pinipilit at hindi po basta bastang maging isang Iglesia ni Cristo...
WELCOME na WELCOME po kayo!!! salamat po.
win or lose ang mga candidato namin _hindi po kami apektado dahil ang priority naming mga IGLESIA NI CRISTO ang kaisahan namin--panalo pa rin kami
Deletesa mga hindi po nakakakilala o nakakaalam sa IGLESIA NI CRISTO "Magsuri po kayo... hindi po kayo magsisisi...kung makikinig lang po kayo sa mga aral ng INC sa radio sa television, sa social media mas madadagdagan pa po ang kaalaman ninyo tungkol sa IGLESIA---wala rin naman pong magpipilit sa inyo na maging member ng IGLESIA NI CRISTO---dahil ang pagpasok po sa IGLESIA NI CRISTO ay wala pong pinipilit at hindi po basta bastang maging isang Iglesia ni Cristo...
WELCOME na WELCOME po kayo!!! salamat po.
win or lose ang mga candidato namin _hindi po kami apektado dahil ang priority naming mga IGLESIA NI CRISTO ang kaisahan namin--panalo pa rin kami
Deletesa mga hindi po nakakakilala o nakakaalam sa IGLESIA NI CRISTO "Magsuri po kayo... hindi po kayo magsisisi...kung makikinig lang po kayo sa mga aral ng INC sa radio sa television, sa social media mas madadagdagan pa po ang kaalaman ninyo tungkol sa IGLESIA---wala rin naman pong magpipilit sa inyo na maging member ng IGLESIA NI CRISTO---dahil ang pagpasok po sa IGLESIA NI CRISTO ay wala pong pinipilit at hindi po basta bastang maging isang Iglesia ni Cristo...
WELCOME na WELCOME po kayo!!! salamat po.
Ang mga kandidato niyo eh bunga ng Exit Poll Survey Results. Kung sino ang natutunugan niyong lamang ang siyang sinusuportahan niyo. Sure win kasi. Tapos kapag nanalo eh you take the credit.
DeleteBakit ilang ba ang botante ng INC? Ang total population nila ay wala pa sa 2 million kasama na riyan ang mga bata so ang number of voters is less.
Magsuri raw. Eh yung mga nagsusuri nga sa yamang napupunta sa bulsa ni Jun Santos at EVM ayaw niyo namang pasuri tapos sabihin mo magsuri.
Salamat sa joke. God bless
We don't care who wins our main objective is that our vote was one.
ReplyDeleteyou just make it as if it were wrong but we don't actually care who wins. even if we lose at least we were one in our vote.
@ Catholic Defender- ang sinasabi mo ay ang "Rehistrado or Legitimate Voters sa INC! tang na mo. bobo, satsat ka ng satsat jan, puro chismis lang ang alam mo.
ReplyDeletegusto mo malaman kung ilan talaga ang INC? sa central office, nandoon ang lahat ng records. gago. palibhasa kayong mga katoliko e lumuluhod lang sa mga kupal ninyong santo na gawa sa kahoy. tanga! bawal po ang bobo, tulad mo. ok?
@Carlo, wherever you are in the world you can know Catholic Director OFFICIALLY, let say for example HERE. Your cult don't have that. So why do I have to travel accross the globe just to get your exact number? I won't waste my time and money.
ReplyDeleteChismis? Well why not provide the accurate number. You love secrecy don't you? Yon ang chismis!
Praise to Jesus Christ our God!
@ Matilda, so you don't actually care who wins? Then why there's such an issue with your "Block-Voting"?
ReplyDeleteOr you are just being affected with the result of the recent ALAGAD PARTY LIST number of votes?
I am just wondering?
napaka pathetic nman ng gumawa nito,, through da years napatunayan na ng iglesia ni cristo ang solidarity ng kanilang vote, kahit akoy isang katoliko alam kong solid sila kung bumoto,, dahil marami rin akong kaibigan iglesia ni cristo, di man nila gusto ang kandidatong dala ng kanilang relihiyon, ibinoboto pa rin nila ito sa ngalan ng kanilang kaisahan,... kung gagawa ka ng ganitong komento tungkol sa isang relihiyon make sure na my pruweba ka.. sa walang kwentang paninira mo. im sure naman isa kang pakawala ng mapanirang religious sect, jan... mas lalong wala nako tiwala sa tinalikuran kong catholic church at walang kwenta sa kin ang dami o bilang nang isang relihiyon kung puro kamalian at puro salungat naman sa itinuturo ng bible ang ibinabahagi nila sa tao,,getz mu,,,..BULOK!
ReplyDeletenapaka pathetic nman ng gumawa nito,, through da years napatunayan na ng iglesia ni cristo ang solidarity ng kanilang vote, kahit akoy isang katoliko alam kong solid sila kung bumoto,, dahil marami rin akong kaibigan iglesia ni cristo, di man nila gusto ang kandidatong dala ng kanilang relihiyon, ibinoboto pa rin nila ito sa ngalan ng kanilang kaisahan,... kung gagawa ka ng ganitong komento tungkol sa isang relihiyon make sure na my pruweba ka.. sa walang kwentang paninira mo. im sure naman isa kang pakawala ng mapanirang religious sect, jan... mas lalong wala nako tiwala sa tinalikuran kong catholic church at walang kwenta sa kin ang dami o bilang nang isang relihiyon kung puro kamalian at puro salungat naman sa itinuturo ng bible ang ibinabahagi nila sa tao,,gets mu,,,..bulok
ReplyDeletenapaka pathetic nman ng gumawa nito,, through da years napatunayan na ng iglesia ni cristo ang solidarity ng kanilang vote, kahit akoy isang katoliko alam kong solid sila kung bumoto,, dahil marami rin akong kaibigan iglesia ni cristo, di man nila gusto ang kandidatong dala ng kanilang relihiyon, ibinoboto pa rin nila ito sa ngalan ng kanilang kaisahan,... kung gagawa ka ng ganitong komento tungkol sa isang relihiyon make sure na my pruweba ka.. sa walang kwentang paninira mo. im sure naman isa kang pakawala ng mapanirang religious sect, jan... mas lalong wala nako tiwala sa tinalikuran kong catholic church at walang kwenta sa kin ang dami o bilang nang isang relihiyon kung puro kamalian at puro salungat naman sa itinuturo ng bible ang ibinabahagi nila sa tao,,getz mu,,,..BULOK!
ReplyDelete@ryan bautista,
ReplyDeleteHuwag na po kayong magpanggap na Katoliko dahil sintunado po ang tono niyo. Kahit anong pagbabalatkayo ng isang kambing na parang tupa ay lalabas pa rin ang tunay niyang anyo. Kaya't mabuti pang inamin mo na lamang na Iglesia ni Cristo® member ka kaysa sa nagpapanggap ka.
Tutal ganyan na ganyan din ang ginagawa ng mga kaanib niyo. Si Conrad J. Obligacion, search mo sa net, kung kanikaninong pangalan ang ninakaw niya para lamang manlinlang at sa isang banda, nag-deny pa siyang member ng Iglesia ni Cristo®.
Anyway, sa sinabi mong unity ng Iglesia ni Cristo®, maiba ako. Sa tunay na Iglesia ni Cristo na siyang Iglesia Katolika ayon sa Pasugo Abril 1966, pahina 46, may obvious na unity po siya. May humigit 23 na rites, tulad ng Latin, Armeian, Greek, Maronite, etc.. pero iisa ang pinatutungkulan ng kanilang panalangin. Iba't iba po ang wika, iba't ibang kultura, iba't ibang panahon, pero iisa ang kanilang binabasa mula sa Banal na Kasulatan.
Maraming internet, blogs, social networks pero iisa ang sinasabi at hindi nagkakasalungat.
Iba't ibang lahi, iba't ibang saloobin pero iisa ang Iglesiang kinikilala ang tunay na Iglesiang kay Cristo, ang Iglesia Katolika..
Sa Iglesia ni Cristo®, iisang lahi lamang ang majority.. mga PINOY. Saan mang sulok ng mundo, basta may Pinoy may Iglesia ni Cristo®. At hindi maaaring walang Pinoy na nangangasiwa nito.
Bakit kaniyo? Dahil proudly Philippine made po itong kulto ni Manalo, na ITINATAG nia noong 1914.
Kaya ka ba umiiyak ay dahil sa nabubunyag ang inyong mga aral?
Anyway, nauunawaan ko kaya huwag kang mag-alala...
Salamat sa pagreact sa "pathetic" na blog ko. At least ako meron, ang Iglesia ni Cristo®, walang official website, at lalong walang masyadong blogger. May dadalawa lamang na pinoy, si Conrad J. Obligacion sa resbak.com at si Conrad J. Obligacion ulit sa readme.blogspot.com
good luck.
Response of ALAGAD Party-List on the following URL (Uniform Resource Locator) addresses:
ReplyDeletehttp://catholicdefender2000.blogspot.com/2010/05/iglesia-ni-cristo-keeping-them-honest.html
http://catholicdefender2000.blogspot.com/2010/05/iglesia-ni-cristo-block-voting-is-just.html
http://catholicdefender2000.blogspot.com/2009/05/inc-not-meddling-in-politics-really-oh.html
Dear Catholic Defender:
I was compelled to respond to your false and unfair accusations appearing on the URLs cited above, not much to correct these misguided and baseless diatribes against ALAGAD Party-List (APL), but more so to enlighten you on your malicious and unfortunate inferences that should not in any way relate to the Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC). First of all, ALAGAD Party-List is not an affiliate of the INC, whether directly or indirectly. Being represented in Congress by an INC member with proven track record and nominated by the Party through rigid selection process does not make the APL an affiliate of INC. For your elementary education, APL is a sectoral organization founded in November 1997 by Diogenes Osabel, a Catholic and former official of the Presidential Commission for the Urban Poor, with the assistance of four (4) founding members one of whom is a Muslim (Datu Usman Rasuman). As before, APL’s membership today is still 99.99% Catholic.
The votes garnered by APL as of the last Comelec Canvass Report (227,180) dated May 17, 2010 (and those in 2004) should not be mistakenly equated as to the voting strength of the INC. You should be resourceful enough to know that APL is not the only party-list group assisted by the INC. In 1998 to 2004, the INC also helped TAPAT, BUTIL, AKLAT, CREBA, AVE and BUHAY to mention a few. Unless you pretend to be ignorant of the facts, BUHAY and CIBAC were also supported in the 2010 elections, along with others more. But I am just curious as to why you are so jumpy about the INC’s actual membership? Is the INC equally interested to know your numbers?
APL housing project (1 so far) does not cater to INC members. This is so because a project of this kind presupposes the registration of a homeowners’ association which membership are actual residents in the area—no exceptions. Party-List solons are presently not entitled to NHA allocations and, therefore, such project has to be coursed through a sympathetic district representative who is also interested in helping his own constituents. Besides, if Catholic Defender still plays ignorant about it, the INC neither expect nor accept favors from political organizations and candidates that it supported during elections.
APL is a sectoral party representing the urban poor in Congress. With the country’s present population of 92 million, APL advocates the use of artificial contraceptives in planning the family. While APL agrees that the growth of population is not the only cause of poverty in this country, it still maintains that poverty can be alleviated through a well managed population growth as in the case of our neighboring Asian countries. Studies from the Asian Development Bank and noted economists from the United Nations confirmed this position and which is why the Philippines is a signatory to the covenants of the Millennium Development Goals (MDG) of September 2002.
I hope the foregoing will help you clarify the issues unfairly linking the INC to the APL. It is high time that you mend your distorted and flawed reasoning. Otherwise, you will do well in calling yourself “Catholic Offender”.
-FRANCIA CONRADO, Ateneo de Naga, Member, Alagad Board of Trustees
@Catholic Offender este Catholic Defender pala, hahaha.... What can you say now about your ignorance in the light of the statements coming from Francia Conrado?
ReplyDeleteNow you know! Duh
@Catholic Offender este Catholic Defender pala, hahaha.... What can you say now about your ignorance in the light of the statements coming from Francia Conrado?
ReplyDeleteNow you know! Duh!!!
@Catholic Offender este Catholic Defender pala, hahaha.... What can you say now about your ignorance in the light of the statements coming from Francia Conrado?
ReplyDeleteNow you know! Duh
FreedomFighter, I notice something typical of ALL the INC® in the net. You call people by names..
ReplyDeleteYou call Cenon Bibe as Demon este Cenon
Now you call me Catholic Offender... you don't imbibe respect in dialogue do you?
Anyway, Mr. Francia Conrado cannot fool Catholics. How could he say almost 99.99% members of ALAGAD are Catholics when in fact your group proudly announces how many condoms you distributed in different places in the Philippines?
So how ignorant are we about our own teachings and in fact you know nothing about Catholicism in that respect alone?
Duh!