"The Christianity of history is not Protestantism. If ever there were a safe truth it is this, and Protestantism has ever felt it so; to be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant." (-John Henry Newman, An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine).

"Where the bishop is, there let the people gather; just as where ever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church". -St. Ignatius of Antioch (ca 110 AD)a martyr later thrown to the lions, wrote to a church in Asia Minor. Antioch was also where the term "Christian" was first used.

“But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth.” 1 Timothy 3:15

"This is the sole Church of Christ, which in the Creed we profess to be one, holy, catholic and apostolic." -CCC 811

Monday, June 1, 2015

Kung ang Iglesia Ni Cristo® ay 100 years, ang tunay na Iglesiang tatag ni Cristo ay mahigit 2,000 years na po!

Comment of an INC™ member at "Iglesia ni Cristo Symbol, nasa Biblia ba ang kahulugan ng kanilang bandila?"

INC po ako. Unang una, kalat na po sa mundo ang INC. Lahat po ng continents, may INC. Maliban lang po Antarctica. Pangalawa, nakaka 100 years palang po ang INC kaya po nasa 102 countries palang, wag kayo excited. Pangatlo, hindi lang Filipino ang mga INC. Pero sa Pilipinas nagmula. Asan po ba ang Pilipinas, diba asa far east. Ano po ba nakasulat sa Isaiah 43:5? Diba po sabi "From the FAR EAST will I bring your offspring...", e kayong mga catholics, diba galing kayo sa rome, asan po ba yung rome? Diba asa west? You should check yourself, before you wreck yourself. Inject that intp your giant cavity, where your brain's supposed to be!!!!
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Maraming salamat po G. Joemel Malgapo sa inyong ipinadalang comment.

Unang-una po, wala po sa Biblia ang pagpapakilala ng mga tagasunod ni Cristo bilang mga "INC". Kaya't kapag sinabi mong "INC po ako" ay diyan pa lang ay unbiblical na po siya.

Pangalawa, HINDI po INC™ ang "kalat" sa buong mundo kundi OFW po.  Nag-boom po ang dagsa ng mga OFW (Overseas Filipino Workers) sa bawat dako ng mundo at nagkataon lamang po na ang iba sa mga Pilipino ay mga kaanib ng INC™ ni Manalo ngunit karamihan pa rin sa kanila ay mga KATOLIKO, ayon po yan sa Wikipedia.

Overseas Filipinos
Flag of the Philippines.svg
Total population
10,460,327 - 13,500,000[a]
Regions with significant populations
Countries with over 100,000 overseas Filipinos (2012)[a]
 United States3,494,281
 Saudi Arabia1,267,658
 UAE931,562
 Canada852,401
 Malaysia686,547
 Australia391,700[not in citation given]
 Japan243,136 (approx. >1,000,000 including undocumented workers)
 United Kingdom218,777
 Kuwait213,638
 Qatar200,016[1][not in citation given]
 Hong Kong195,128
 Singapore184,498
 Italy172,148
 Israel176,499[not in citation given]
Languages
Philippine languages, English, Spanish
Religion
Mostly Christianity, particularly Roman Catholicism  · Islam.
Related ethnic groups
Filipino people
  1. ^ Jump up to:a b Population figures shown are the top ten figures from estimates in 2012 by the Commission on Filipinos Overseas.[2] Countries for which other sources report significant differences from these include the following:

In other words, OFW pong Pinoy at Pinay ang nagdala ng INC™ ni Manalo sa mga bansang iyon at HINDI si MANALO o isa man sa mga tagapag-mana niya ang nagdala niyan sa mga 102 bansang sinasabi mong "mayroon pa lang" na mga kaanib ng INC™ ni Manalo.

Kayo  102 "countries" in 100 years? 

Kami naman, eh CHRONICLED po siya sa Wikipedia (highlights are mine)

  • Although the calculations of Dionysius Exiguus put the birth of Jesus in the year that in consequence is called AD 1, history places his birth more likely some time between 6 and 4 BC.
  • c. 28: Jesus' baptism, start of ministry, and selection of the Apostles. The Gospel of Luke indicates that Christ was baptized during the 15th reign of Tiberius Caesar which is dated in 28 AD (found in Luke 3:1,21,22). Christian Gospels strongly suggest Peter as leader and spokesman of the Apostles of Jesus, being mentioned the most number of times in the Gospels. Peter, and the sons of Zebedee, James and John, constitute the inner circle of the Apostles of Jesus, being witnesses to specific important events of the life of Jesus; preachings of Jesus, such as the Sermon on the Mount; and performance of miracles, such as raising the dead back to life, feeding five-thousand, walking on water, etc.
  • c. 31: Peter declares and other followers believe Jesus of Nazareth to be the Jewish Messiah promised by Yahweh according to the Jewish Scriptures and the predictions of the Hebrew prophets. Entry into Jerusalem, start of Passion of Christ. Jesus of Nazareth is crucified inJerusalem under Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea during the reign of Tiberius and Herod Antipas, after the Sanhedrin, under the High PriestCaiaphas, accuse Jesus of blasphemy. He was then crucified under Pontius Pilate. According to his followers, three days later, "God raised him from the dead". Forty days after his resurrection (Ascension), the Christian Gospels narrate that Jesus instructed His disciples thus: "All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of time." (Matthew 28:18–20). Ten days later (Pentecost) Peter makes the first sermon converting 3,000 to be baptized.
  • c. 34: St. Stephen, the first Christian martyr, is stoned to death in Jerusalem.
  • c. 52: Traditional arrival of St. Thomas, the Apostle in India.
  • c. 70: Fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple.
  • c. 100: St. John, the last of the Apostles, dies in Ephesus.[4][5]
  • c. 110: Ignatius of Antioch uses the term Catholic Church in a letter to the Church at Smyrna, one of the letters of undisputed authenticity attributed to him. In this and other genuine letters he insists on the importance of the bishops in the Church and speaks harshly about heretics and Judaizers.
  • c. 150: Latin translations (the Vetus Latina) from the Greek texts of the Scriptures are circulated among non-Greek-speaking Christian communities.
So far, yan lamang po ang achievement namin during the first 100-150 YEARS ng IGLESIA KATOLIKA!

'Yung KABUUAN mula 4 B.C hanggang 2015 A.D eh CHRONICLED po siya. Nababasa ng lahat ng tao sa buong mundo.

Kung di ka sang-ayon sa mga entries ng mga historical facts, pwede kang mag-protest pero siguraduhin mong mayroon kang "historical facts" to back it up. So are you up for the challenge? Wikipedia is waiting even your most intelligent INC™ Defender to challenge them!

Kaya't kung kaya mong ipagmalaki ang 100 years niyo with 102 daw na bansa, eh ano pa kaya ang 2,015 YEARS ng TUNAY na IGLESIANG KAY KRISTO? 

Source: FreeCalendar
O, pustahan tayo, ginagamit niyo rin ang LIBONG TAONG BILANG na ito ng IGLESIA KATOLIKA sa inyong mga opisina!

So sa tingin mo, ILANG BANSA na po ba ang narating ng IGLESIA KATOLIKA? HETO, BASAHIN MO!

Pangatlo, maging ang mga asawa ng mga kaanib niyo na HINDI naman Pinoy ay INAKIT niyo na sa INC™ ni Manalo. Kaya't NAGKAROON ng mga FOREIGNERS sa INC™ ni Manalo.

Sa katunayan, halos lahat ng inyong mga malalaking pamamahayag ay sa TAGALOG o FILIPINO ito sinasalita dahil MAJORITY pa rin sa inyong mga pagtitipon ay mga OVERSEAS FILIPINO WORKERS and MIGRANT FILIPINOS.
"The dedication service itself, nearly all in Filipino, consisted of much singing, some praying, a monetary collection and an hourlong homily by Manalo... English-speaking visitors listened through translation headsets." -PASUGO God's Message, ("Restoring Life", Reprinted with permission fro the Telegraph Herald with Publication Date: January 5, 2012 pages: 1-2, Section: A, by Mary Nevans-Pederson, TH staff writer), p. 17-18

Pang-apat, WALA pong FAR EAST sa Isaiah 43:5.  Tanging sa MOFFAT Bible Translations lang may- "far east" na salita.

Bakit FAVORITE nila si MOFFAT i-quote sa Isaiah 43:5? 

Sapagkat TUMUTUGMA ito sa kanilang gustong palabasin na si Felix Manalo nga naman ay "HINULAAN" daw ng Banal na Kasulatan.

Kaya't ang tanong pa rin natin eh SINO si MOFFAT at may karapatan siyang baguhin at ilagay na lamang ang mga gusto niyang salita sa kanyang sariling version ng "biblia" at SASABIHIN ng mga INC™ na salita pa rin ito ng Diyos?

SALITA na ito ni MOFFAT at HINDI ang Diyos!

Totoo bang may "far east" sa katuruan ng INC™ ni Manalo o wala?

"Let us set this clear, We have never taught that  any mention of the expression of 'far east' refers to the Philippines." -PASUGO, July 1997, p. 5.
Kayo nga mismo eh hindi pa magkaisa sa katuruan eh kami pa kaya ang aasahan niyong mag-solve sa inyong kalituhan?.

Pang-lima. Wala pong PILIPINAS sa biblia. Walang FAR EAST. Walang HULING SUGO!

Pero bakit Pilipinas? 

Bakit hindi Indonesia? Taiwan? Vietnam? Malaysia? 

Bakit "PILING-PILI" ang PILIPINAS sa pagkakatatag-muli ng "Iglesia Ni Cristo®"?

Dahil ba ito'y BUKOD-TANGING "CHRISTIAN COUNTRY" in the South East Asia?  

Maaaring pakisagot nga yan?

Pang-anim: Ano ba ang ginawa ni Felix Manalo: ang MAGTATAG ng IGLESIA? O ang i-RESTORE ang original na Iglesia?

So sa iyo ko rin ibabalik ang sarili mong salita: YOU SHOULD CHECK YOURSELF, BEFORE YOU WRECK YOURSELF. INJECT THAT INTP (sic) YOUR GIANT CAVITY, WHERE YOUR BRAIN'S SUPPOSED TO BE!!!"

Salamat po.
Posted by CD2000 at 1:08 PM
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2 comments:

  1. HealthwowsJune 2, 2015 at 10:50 PM

    I'm currently working in Thailand right now as a teacher. one of my buddhist who is a bit knowledgeable was able to raised questions which concernsChristianity. He asked me. "Teacher why in Christian you have so many religion you only believe in one God" I was astonished by his question. Sometimes I asked to myself too, we only have one God, one Bible we use, but we differ our beliefs. My opinion, is let us respect each others religion. I think it is absurd to criticize other religion because your religion has better churches, greater members etc. Btw, the comment above by our christian friends make me laugh.

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    1. CD2000June 3, 2015 at 12:04 PM

      And as a teacher, what was your response? It should concern you as someone who is a "follower" of Christ.

      There is only ONE CHRISTIAN RELIGION. That one Christian religion is none other than the Catholic Church. I am not claiming it nor the Church. It's what our HISTORICAL FACTS, like it or not.

      Those who professes "faith" in Christ yet are AGAINST THE CHURCH are heretics and therefore aren't consider "religions" but CULTS or SECTS.

      And I am so surprised that an educator like you falls short of this basic facts of history when you are supposed to learn it first and then let others learn it from you.

      And before I would laugh also at your inability to counter that buddhist believer to question yours, haven't you learned that Buddha was a Hindu? And since there is no central authority in buddhism so they do not have a unifed teaching also on how to deal with the moral problems we have today particularly GAY LIFESTYLE which is very much known in Thailand.

      I would be more delighted if you as an educator do not limit your knowledge on academic books but read some religious history books (written by real non denominational historians) for your own additional knowledge.

      God bless.

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