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Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Did the Iglesia ni Cristo copy from the Mormons?

I find this article below very interesting. A similar story is found at Felix Manalo and Mormons which one may think Felix Manalo actually copied his INC structures from the Mormons. If that's true, then the Iglesia ni Cristo's teachings and worship are all combinations of copied doctrines from different sects starting from the heretical teachings of Arius which was condemned at the First Council of Nicea in the year 325 (see list of Church's Ecumenical Councils, 21 all-in-all so far) which Felix Manalo revived in 1914 - 1,589 years later.

After Felix Manalo left the Seventh-Day Adventists, he copied from them the hoax controversy about an inexistent suppposed "title" of the Supreme Pontiff of the Catholic Church, the Pope as Vicariui Filii Dei, already abandoned by the Seventh-Day Adventist Church in June 2002 but today, the Iglesia ni Cristo (Manalo) haven't abandoned it for the reason that that's the only way they can attract poorly-catechized Catholics to their fold.

Here's the unedited article:

Source: Yahoo!Answers

Fellow lds and copycat iglesia ni cristo members what can you say about this? i got this in a forum and i copied it, i will not edit it even though some are not correct with regards to the lds belief, iglesia ni cristo members what can you say about this:

not sure about this, ako ra sad ni nadunggan...

Felix Manalo studied college in Brigham Young University (I think in Hawaii). It is a big and prestigious college own by the Latter-Day Saints church. But they also accept non-members of the church.

So Manalo studied there but did not become an LDS / Mormon. Then later he founded INC. That's why we see a some similarity of the INC from the LDS.

e.g.
1. Joseph Smith (claimed to be the prophet of LDS) - Felix Manalo (claimed to be prophet/angel of INC)

2. LDS believes that the Apostasy indeed happened -- INC believes that the Apostasy indeed happened

3. LDS through Joseph Smith the church of God was restored back to earth -- INC through Felix Manalo the church of God was restored back to earth

4. LDS has temples -- INC has a temple (but doesn't function similarly to LDS temples)

5. LDS has a Tabernacle --- INC has a Tabernacle (again doesn't function similary to LDS Tabernacle)

6. LDS has a Tablenacle Choir (Mormon Tabernacle Choir) --- INC also has a Tabernacle Choir

I think the one that can't go unnoticed here is that the LDS church believes that the Great Apostasy occurred. Apostasy is when the church of God, that was presided over by the Apostles, was taken from the earth because of persecution by the Romans and death of the Apostles. So when the Apostles died, the church of God ceased to exist on earth. What was continued by the Romans (specifically Constantine) was already the apostate church.

INC believes this too.

For the LDS, Joseph Smith was called to restore the church of God. Restoring the priesthood and "the keys necessary for the salvation of man".

For the INC, Felix Manalo was also called to restore the church of God from the Apostasy.

Did Felix Manalo copy this from the LDS? Maybe, but we don't know. Ang ako lang nabal-an is that he studied in Brigham Young University. A LDS college.


What do you think?

39 comments:

  1. i know that before Felix Manalo is a true seventh day adventist..
    and after that he is the only one who made a new church and it is the INC or church of Christ.

    before felix manalo died there some of the SDA visited him....
    because he has a sick...

    when he saw his fellow SDA, he cried..
    you know what because SDA is his true church...
    but at the last he says
    "there is no more time,because now i have no strength.i am lying.."

    and that time he feels guilty and some regrets............
    did God forgive me? he ask....
    because he know that he find Jesus Christ where he belong before.....

    dont be angry INC because we all know about the life story of Bro. felix manalo...


    once again thank you.. and God bless!!!!!!!

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    1. http://pasugo-1914.blogspot.com/2008/09/felix-manalo-and-mormons.html

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  3. really guys? you kinow everything in INC, were you there when he died? do you believed in the prophecy? did Smith came from afar country? did he lived in the far east where all the prophecy referred to? Copying structure does not mean copying doctrines, why this Church is so so big now? didn't you reralized that on this last days when the global economy is down and people are crying for justice,there is a great CHURCH like the IGLESIA NIC CRISTO which became so BIG and fast growing all over the world without any help from any private sector, person and now we are over 92 countries and more than 101 nationalities. Please don't compare the INC to anyone, there is no match to what the INC achieved to any religion in this world....Respect us and listen but if you don't like us, leave us alone...that's very simple.

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    1. It's not a matter on how many members in the church. it matter in truthfulness. INC is an ugly photo copy of LDS

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    2. Amos 8:11-12
      King James Version (KJV)
      11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

      12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east,(INC - is in the east so INC can not in anyway find the word or restore the church of jesus christ in the Philippines It was in the west the gospel was restored in 1830 not in 1914) they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it. Peace :)

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    3. LDS has a Geographical areas 176 nations/territories. mas marami ang member ng LDS compared sa INC statistical report last year 15 million while inc 10 million lng kasma na dun ung mga EX-inc sa lds kc pag inactive hindi kna kasama sa bilang.

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    4. qng ako papipiliin qng LDS oh INC, LDS nalang ako sila may 17 points of the true church of christ at lahat un fit sa kanila sila nga ang tunay na restored church. daladala nila ang pangalan ni Jesus Christ. at sila my witnessed ung Prophet nila na baptised si Felix hindi naman xa na baptised wala din xang witness wala din xang authority ung Prophet ng Lds ibinigay skanya ung Aaronic Priesthood at Melchezdek Priesthood na galing at binigay nila PETER, JAMES & JOHN kay Joseph Smith Jr. at May witness sila hindi lang 3 kundi 8 witness. meron din ibinigay kay Joseph Smith Jr. ang Urim at Thummim na tanging LDS lang ang meron, pati Baptism for the dead na restored din at tanging LDS lang ang meron. 1Cor 15:29 .

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    5. Lool LDS is another fabricated Johnny come lately church. And Felix manalo copied from them...

      And where are the "GOLDEN PLATES" lool

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    6. it was taken by the same prophet who handed it to the Prophet Joseph Smith... want to know that prophet?? log on to www.mormon.org, www.mormonchannel.org also www.lds.org

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    7. Well, I too had golden plates. But unfortunately, it was taken by an angel so now I don't have them. I can claim all I want to claim but to prove them is just another difficult thing to do.

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    8. Why do you need to see the Golden Plates? We have millions of copies of it already. Its called the Book of Mormon. You think Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon by himself as a 17 year old boy? No, he translated the Golden Plates, which is the Book of Mormon. Requiring the Plates for proof is just like going back in time and seeing the sperm and egg that combined to create you for proof that you were born.

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    9. watch and compare.. they also copied the video of LDS

      joseph smith prophet of the restoration full movie Uploaded on youtube on 28 Mar 2011

      felix manalo full movie was just only realeased on October 7, 2015,, tssk tssk tssk... My fahter's said that Felix Manalo and his whole family was once to be an LDS member, i don't know if its true... but i think its true... the reason why Felix Manalo refused to LDS church because that time of his time he wants to be a prophet also.. but his desire has not been given a chance by God .. so he feel mad and left LDS and build his own church similar to LDS so he can be a prophet also by his own.... wierd but i think some of the LDS church know this... cuz if its true that he was once to be an LDS member and he has been baptist in LDS church.. the church has the record of him.. Baptismal record... and for the chruch have this.. and my father's story is also true...

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    10. My father told That Felix Manalo is also once to be an LDS member and also his whole family... but because of his desire to be a prophet of LDS church that has not been fullfilled,, he felt mad ... and guilty? i think.. and refused to be a member of an LDS church and build his own church so he can be also a prophet... so that as you can see INC have a lot of similarities to the LDS church .. the forsure .. not only my father know but also some of the LDS church member also... and for sure, the LDS church also have the record of Felix Manalos membership as he been baptist to the church.... and it will only just serve as a big evidence that my fathers story was true about Felix Manalo...

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  4. Felix Manalo has no ORIGINAL DOCTRINE of his own. Arius who lived more than 1,000 years before your fallen angel was even born.

    Your growth doesn't guarantee truth. Satan is still there if you want to compare it with your growth. The INC can never be the real-- it's the FAKE one.

    The Catholic Church has been there for more than 2,000 years now and is present in all corners of the world in every city and every country with different nationalities, races, language, traditions etc, but belonging to ONE CHURCH of JESUS CHRIST. That is NO MATCH.

    So the same thing I would tell you... if you dont like us, LEAVE US ALONE... stop maligning Catholics and our doctrines in your PASUGO and in your TV stations. Mind your own and leave us in peace...

    insecure kasi kayo kaya tinitira niyo ang Katoliko para kayo ang lalabas na tama!!!

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    1. Tama naman talaga kami ah sige nga sabihin natin na Madami kayo pero hindi naman sa dami ikinukumpara ang mga pagsaba sa dyos, hindi lang naman sa mga seremonyas sinasamba ang dyos at higit sa lahat hindi si Cristo ang DYOS! kung hindi si AMA ang gumawa nang lahat basa hin mo ang 2 THESSALONIANS ver.1 NANG MAKITA MO!

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    2. MANALISTAS MAGISING NA PO KAYO AT MALAPIT NA ANG PAGHUHUSGA NG PANGINOONG DIOS!

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    3. anong manalista hoy soriano magising ka! o kusng sino kamang katoliko ka lahat nang mga paniniwala nyo ay isang hamak na mali sinasabi ko sa inyo lulunokin nyo lahat nang mga huwan o mali nyong araw tutal malapit nang mangyari ang isanglibong taon basahin nyo ang Apocalypse 20:4-5

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    4. hoy MR.Vous. Tanga kaba? lahat na talaga nang INC BOBO. si jesu kristo ay panginoon. may nagtanong ba kung diyos si cristo???????

      kasi sa inyo propeta lang si jesus. si manalo kasi ang panginoon niyo. ang totoong simbahan ung hindi nag ninigusyo. eh. ung simbahan ninyo pag maliit lang ang ibinigay ng membro sasabihin agad na maliit lang ang pananampalataya. may listahan pa.kaya pala INC. shortcut ng Inc. katolad ng pacemco Inc. heheheheh. negosyo!

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    5. sarap ng talakayan na to ah... totoong kinopya lang ng INC ang lahat lahat sa LDS.. ang LDS may BYU... Ang INC my New Era.. ang LDS my Liahona..ang INC naman ay my Pasugo.. at narerendi talaga ako kapag sinabi nyong indi Diyos si Hesus.. sige explain mo nga kung bakit sinabi ng anghel na si Hesus ay Emmanuel? ang Emmanuel diba ay [GOD WITH US] ibig sabihin si Hesus ay Diyos..alangan naman na ang pabo, manok o kung sino mang personahe un.. at pansinin mo..bakit tinawag ng mga Diyablo si Hesus na son of god? ndi kasi kau binibgyan ng mga bulok nyong ministro ng bibliya kya nabulag kayo.. at ano yung sinabi ni Hesus na Before Abraham was...I AM.. yung I AM ay bawal sabihin sa panahon ni Hesu Kristo ng basta2x kundi mapapatay ka.. pero sinabi niya para malaman ng lahat na siya ay Diyos..ang great Jehovah.. grabe kau.. sobrang napakalaking pambubulag ginagawa niyo..

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    6. I don't understand why this INC are continuously striving to make us believe that Christ is not God and their many false teachings. Maybe they haven't read their bible enough to understand it thoroughly. They just rely on those foolish teaching made by their ministers. They used to invite people to attend their church and learn their doctrines but unluckily, they don't understands it as well. i had a conversation with an INC in school yesterday and MY GOSH! she doesn't know a single verse in the bible other than Romans 16:16, I felt pity for her. I hope that you must read your scripture for you to understand the doctrines and not to rely on those false teachings made by your leaders. If you do so, you will realized that you should not belong to that church. It's hard to say but it is true.

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    7. Pity them and pray for their conversion :)

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  5. "didn't you reralized that on this last days when the global economy is down and people are crying for justice,there is a great CHURCH like the IGLESIA NIC CRISTO..."

    Anong nagawa ni EDUARDO niyo during these economic crisis? Naglabas ba siya ng OFFICIAL STATEMENT? At kung naglabas man siya may nakinig ba?

    Bagkos ang LEADER OF 1.1 BILLION CHRISTIANS AROUDN THE WORLD spoke and leaders around the world listened...

    No match? Yes there is no match with the REAL CHURCH OF CHRIST!

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  6. hindi tunay ang simbahang kumakapit sa napaka duming pulitika
    hindi tunay ang simbahang nag eendorso ng pulitiko tuwing election..
    hindi tunay ang simbahang nag eendorso ng mga pulitiko just to make money...

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  7. Hehe IGLESIA NI MANALO , INC=Incorporated, tuwing election my sinusoporthan ang iglesia ni manalo eh hahaha para mag ka pera, ung mga uto utong member nmn nila sunod sunuran hehe pag cnbi ng leader nila iboto nyo xa iboboto nga, eh pg cnbing mg bikti kyo, malamang mg bibikti nga kyo hehehe monggoloid mga taga IGLESIA NI MANALO eh.

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    1. hahaha.. astig ka tol... IBOTO si Manalo para sa kapahamakan ng ating kaluluwa... ahm indi nyo ba alam na my mga malalaking kumag sila na myembro.. meron sa army, police, engineer, doctor.. kasi kapag sumali dw kau sa INC instant trabaho at negosyo agad ang bibigay pero dapat magbayad ng napaka laking tax.. para makatulong sa paglalago ng kayamanan kasi Manalo sila at tayo ay Matalo..hahaha

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  8. Hindi naman lahat ng kaanib ay bumototo sa sinasabi ng mga Manalo. Kaya nga nangulelat ang bise ni Pinoy dahil di naman talaga sila 100%. Joke joke lang un. Ang mga polito uto-uto rin. Napaniwala ng mga manalo hehehe. Isipin mo saka lang sasabihin ni Manalo kung sino ang iboboto days before the election kung saan niya natutunugan na kung sino ang mananalo. Tapos sa kanila ang credit kapag nanalo ang kandidato bwahahahahaha

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  9. mayroon membro ng INC na naginvite sa akin sa kanyang simbahan, sabi nya "kung saan ang mas maganda, doon na lang tayo" tumanong ako sa kanya, "sa inyo, may multa dba? pag hindi ka magsimba?" "oo, kailangan kasi ang pagsimba" sabi nya. tapos sabi ko, "sa amin wala kaming multa, kaya nga mas maganda dito sa amin eh"

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    1. Natawa ako dito HAHAHA! Astig brother :D INC kami NOON, and MANALO ang apelyedo ko :D i hate INC now, to the max! inc lahat ng kamag-anak ko HAHA!

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    2. And let's keep them in our prayers...

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  10. If it is the Church of Jesus Christ... His name should be on it.. "Jesus Christ" not Iglesia ni Kristo... Maraming Kristo... sa sabungan nga may Kristo eh.

    Matthew 24:5
    King James Version (KJV)
    5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

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  11. Godbless every 1..ang "debate" ay isang paraan pra mwala ang respeto nten s isatisa..wla pos ganda at dmi ng simbahan bgkos tgnan po nten s ating mga sarili ang k22hanan at kbanalan..

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  12. FYI Jesus Christ is a GOD not a man. If you belong to a church that believes Jesus Christ as a man, then your church is man's church not God's church. Here is the clearest proof that Jesus is God.
    JOHN 1:1-14
    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    2 The same was in the beginning with God.

    3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

    5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

    6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

    7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

    8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

    9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

    10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

    11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

    12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

    13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

    14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    Verse 1 says that the WORD was GOD and in verse 14 it says that the WORD was made flesh. Both talk about Jesus Christ. Hence Jesus Christ is GOD. FYI

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  13. 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    2 The same was in the beginning with God.

    3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

    5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

    6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

    7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

    8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

    9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

    10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

    11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

    12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

    13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

    14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Jesus Christ is GOD

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  14. LDS is the true church...im a mormon...i knew it...i lived it...i love it :)

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    1. None of them is the true Church. Still the CATHOLIC CHURCH is the ORIGINAL AND TRUE CHURCH.

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    2. Sigurado ka ba sa sinasabi mo na yan??bigyan mo ako ng katibayan na totoo ang simbahan ng katoliko....cguro hnd mo alam na ang simbahan ng katoliko ay ang simbahan ng dyablo....mag isip isip ka muna....at tanungin mo sa sarili mo kung nasusunod ba ng simbahan nio ang 10 commandments....

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    3. Bryan Mendoza,

      You're confused? Well, perhaps these facts may help you.

      1. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints was founded by Joseph Smith in April 6, 1830 (Wikipedia). But before that, even what name should they name Smith's church was changed from time to time.

      a. Church of Christ (1829)
      b. Church of the Latter day saints (1834)
      c. Church of Jesus Christ, Church of God, Church of Christ of the Latter day Saints, and Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (1838 after a "revelation")

      2. Then this church of Smith, SPLIT to smaller groups, namely

      a. Pure Church of Christ (1831)
      b. Independent Church (1832)
      c. Church of Christ-Ezra Booth (1836)
      c. Church of Christ-Warren Parrish (1837)
      d. Alston Church (1839)
      e. Church of Christ-William Chubby (late 1830)
      f. Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, The Lamb's Wife (1840)
      g. Church of Christ-Hiram Page (1842)
      h. True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (1844)

      3. Then those who oppose the deletion of polygamy, split with the main mormonism, namely

      a. Council of Friends (1920)
      b. Latter Day Church of Christ (1935)
      c. Apostolic United Brethren (1954)
      d. Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (1954)
      e. Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness of Times -Joel LeBaron (1955)
      f. Church of the Firstborn- Wesley LeBaron (1955)
      g. Church of Jesus Christ in Solemn Assembly (1974)
      h. Church of the First Born of the Lamb of God- Ervil LeBaron (1972)
      i. Church of the New Covenant in Christ (1975)
      j. Righteous Branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (1978)
      k. School of the Prophets (1982)
      l. Centennial Park (1984)
      m. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Kingdom of God (1990)
      n. True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days (1994)
      o. The Church of the Firstborn and the General Assembly of Heaven (2001)
      p. Church of Jesus Christ (Original Doctrine) Inc. (2002)

      4. Latter Day Church of Jesus Christ (2007) (History of the Catholic Church

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