"The Christianity of history is not Protestantism. If ever there were a safe truth it is this, and Protestantism has ever felt it so; to be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant." (-John Henry Newman, An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine).

"Where the bishop is, there let the people gather; just as where ever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church". -St. Ignatius of Antioch (ca 110 AD)a martyr later thrown to the lions, wrote to a church in Asia Minor. Antioch was also where the term "Christian" was first used.

“But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth.” 1 Timothy 3:15

"This is the sole Church of Christ, which in the Creed we profess to be one, holy, catholic and apostolic." -CCC 811

Tuesday, April 19, 2011

Iglesia ni Cristo member deceived about Romans 16:16

Plaridel's invitation letter to his post at Arefenos blog
Let me quote this Iglesia ni Cristo member's best introduction:
Here is a commentary on CD2000's post "INC Ministers' willful DISHONESTY and INFIDELITY to the SCRIPTURES!" He intends to prove that it is not "iglesia ni Cristo" in the bible but "iglesya ni Cristo". My friends, we know that here may be different verisons of the Bible. What version of the bible is he using in his post? he has this picture: But what version is he using? The picture does not show the version or publisher.
MR. PLARIDEL, let me help you unzip a very simple and obvious analysis here. Romans 16:16 is NEITHER about the translation NOR it was about the SPELLING. It doesn't concerns me a lot.

It doesn’t matter if the word “church” in Tagalog is spelled “iglesia” or “iglesya”. But it definitely CONCERNS me when your Iglesia ni Cristo cult DELIBERATELY ALTERED what was written in Romans 16:16 to be a PROPER NOUN "Iglesia" or "Iglesya".  


Please care to read what was written in your PASUGO as your Ministers QUOTED the same passage from Romans 16:16?

With DUE RESPECT, in all TRANSLATIONS of the Bible, Romans 16:16 has these words “… churches” NOT “Churches”. It has “… mga iglesia” NOT “… mga Iglesia” or Iglesya. (even the Lamsa Translation has it).

See now the difference?

That was what Mr. Plaridel is trying to do. Deviate your attention to something else.

He said that the Bible I quoted was:
"...actually a pocket new testament [emphasis mine], was printed by the American Bible society in accordance with the Philippines Agency,and was approve by the Japanese government on October 29 1942, with the name on the top being "ANG BAGONG TIPAN". I think its a translation form the King James Version. It does say Iglesia Ni Cristo"

"Mangagbatian kayo ng banal na halik. Binahat ng mabati kayo ng lahat ng mga iglesia ni Cristo"

IN the "dating salin" version of the bible also known as Tagalog Bible number 53, it says the same thing "iglesia ni Cristo"

There you are. You were caught LYING again and deceiving many.

And to cut short of his conceited ARROGANCE, let me prove to you that the Bible I quoted WAS NOT a "POCKET BIBLE".  It's an 8 INCHES length Bible version called "Magandang Balita BIBLIA may Deuterocanonico" -- a Catholic Bible in Tagalog.


The rest of his deceiving tactics you can read, and I quote:

But regarding the verses that he used they are in the bible but they cab (sic) be used againt the Catholic Church with courage and with proof. Want to see why? Click here for the video. This happened on August 5 2006. On the INC side it is brother Ramil Parba and on the catholic side in Mr. Talibong. this makes me laugh because of what happened. The catholics usually use verse Mathew 16:18 in their debates but this one just makes the best and most embarrassing for catholics. On the page where the verse Matthew 16:18 is found the page was clearly changed. the page itself was changes with new paper. They went a few steps further by doing that not just overlapping it with a small cut of paper. The words in that verse of any bible do not say the words "Roman catholic Apostolic". THis just proves how desperate catholics come when it comes to debates, that they would add to the bible or change it in some way. ouch.

That just hurts you guys. I guess CD2000 is not that keen on what he says. sorry CD2000 :)

And the saddest part of his article? He wanted to prove his case through a link at a YouTube video but for 12 hours the video just didn't play at all.

Poor Iglesia, his only weapon to tear down my credibility wasn't siding with him.

Try your best luck again Mr. Plaridel!

38 comments:

  1. Its me Plarisdel again, You can read the clarifications on those things you brought up on 4
    http://arefenos.blogspot.com/2011/04/clarification.html
    thanks :)

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  2. Thanks but I am not interested. I said my point!

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  3. i dont see why you have to bash on other's beliefs, and you call yourself Christian. <.< how shameful of you.

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  4. Anonymous, you "DON'T SEE" or you are BLINDED. I don't believe I am "bashing" your Iglesia?

    Can I suggest something. Why not try to "click" your mouse at "Iglesia ni Cristo" label and read for yourself how bashful your members were.

    Let me bring you to the very beginning why we, Christian Catholics have to role up our sleeves and start defending Christ's Church:

    ALL of INC teachings were HINGED against the Catholic Church and Catholics! Without the Catholic Church, INC teachings cannot stand:

    Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia ni Cristo

    Here are some of the many anti-Catholic pronouncements from Central and it's OFFICIAL:

    Ang Katotohanan Tungkol sa INK-1914

    Please come back and tell us who's bashing. And please quote any official Catholic teachings that may be published against the INC of Felix Manalo? It's not shameful to DEFEND JESUS CHRIST and HIS CHURCH! And I will not be ashamed of it!!!

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  5. if i were you just keep you head shots...if you're telling your self a good natured priest or whatever you call yourself, teaching something like that... better respect other's belief let them know for themselves ..this is kinda brainwashed and if you're not happy with that religion better keep it off for your self and mind your own self instead.. posting this stupid article and doin' some sizing...this is a head ache...

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    1. Oh cejie, tell their PAID MINISTERS to keep their own business without demonizing Catholics and the Catholic Church!

      They should stop using our teachings against us.. leave us in peace so they will leave also in peace..

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  6. one more thing ..i'm happy being a member of the IGLESIA NI CRISTO and whatever you say and do a brainwashing statements, how about making some statement about the priest doin' a scandal?? If you know how to RESPECT ..anyway RESPECT created to USE IT, right?! IF you know what i mean! take your own shoes and please when you use it walk straight.

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    1. Tell that to your anti-Catholic PAID MINISTERS!

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  7. I wish someday all christian unite as one....

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    1. Yes. It is happening now. http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/166678/Pope_Francis_and_Bishop_Tony_Palmer__Message_at_KCM/

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  8. Sa pamamagitang nga PANGKALAHATANG IGLESIA NI CRISTO- dinadalangin natin na PAG-ISAHIN ng ESPIRITU SANTO ang lahat ng mga KRISTIANO.

    sa ngayon, maraming mga PROTESTANTE ang bumabalik na sa INANG IGLESIA sapagkat ang Dios na si Cristo ang siyang may-ari ng Iglesiang ito.

    Purihin ang Dios!

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  9. Basahin mo po kaya ang GAWA 20:28 (Lamsa Translation) ng magising kayong mga KAtoliko.....Eto pa nakalagay sa biblia na bawal kumain ng dugo bakit kayo kumakain??
    nakasulat ba sa Bibliya na ang kaarawan ni Cristo ay DEC. 25 gaya ng aral nio...???Kung hindi mo po alam aral po yan ng pagano...kaya pagano po pla kayo.....??
    Ilang beses na na pinatunayan ng panginoong Hesus na siya ay tao,bakit itinituro ng katoliko na si Cristo ay Dios..???
    sa biblya binigyan ni Cristo ang lahat ng apostle ng tinapay na walang libadura at katas ng ubas....ehh bakit ang pari nio lamang ang umiinom ng kumbaga katas ng ubas sa tuwing magcocomunion kayo...???
    rosaryo....may saligan ba sa Bibliya.(wala)...
    ipinagbabawal ng ang pagsamba sa mga Diyos diyusan at sa mga larawang inanyuan..ehh bakit may mga rebulto kayong sinasamba...MArami pa po ang kasinungalingang aral ang itinuturo ng simbahang katoliko..SANA'Y MAGISING NA PO KAYO,HUWAG NG MAGBULAG BULAGAN PA NI MAGBINGIBINGIHAN ...PURO BALUKTOT NA MGA ARAL NAMAN ANG INYONG IPINAGTATANGGOL...!!!!PAGPALAIN NAWA ANG BUONG IGLESIA NI CRISTO...PURIHIN ANG AMA,ANG NAG-ISANG DIYOS NA NASA LANGIT.

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    1. IPOKRITO!

      Ang Mga GAwa 20:28 sa LAMSA LANG YAN! Hindi tinatanggap ng buong ka-Kristianuhan ang version ni George Lamsa. Mga NESTORIAN and followers of ARIUS lang ang nagku-quote sa LAMSA... tutal anak naman kayo ng kasinugnalingan kaya YON LANG ang alam niyong verse sa LAMSA VERSION, tsk tsk tsk.

      Tinaganong mo ang DEC. 25 na paggunita sa kaarawan ni Cristo na talagang wala naman sa Bible samantalang ANG JULY 27 na halos mangandarapa kayo sa paghahanda at ABULUYAN na LALONG WALA SA BIBLIA ay dedma ka!

      PLASTIK!

      Kunyari pa kayong paaayaw ayaw sa mga rebulto pero kayo naman ang naglagay ng MALAKING REBULTO ni FELIX MANALO sa central at may paalala pang "HUWAG SAMBAHIN"! Bakit may SUMASAMBA NA BA REBULTO NI FELIX at kailangan ng paalalahanan ang mga kaanib ng INCorporated 1914 All Rights Reserve Church ni Manalo?

      Baluktot ang mga aral namin dahil BINALUKTOT ng mga BULAANG PROPETA ng INCorporated 1914 All Rights Reserved Church ni Manalo!

      At tungkol sa dinuguan, sinong nagsabing bawal ito? Basahin ang DINUGUAN, BAWAL BA?!!!

      Huwag kayong ipokrito mga INC, maging ang mga BIBLIA na ginagamit niyo ay WALA MAN KAYONG SALIN..

      lahat ng ginagamit niyong mga salin ay SALIN ng mga PROTESTANTE at mga DALUBHASANG KATOLIKO!!!

      kahit isang MINISTRO ng INCorporated All Rights Reserved Church of Manalo ay walang K para magsalin ng Biblia..

      Eh pano, WALA KAYONG MGA EXPERTS.. puro mga DISTORTERS at mga DECEIVERS of FAITH!!!

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    2. MGA KATO-LIKO MAGISING NA SANA KAYO! KUNG TUNAY KAYONG SA DIYOS, BAKIT KAYO SUMASAMBA SA REBULTO. GAYONG ITO'Y IPINAGBABAWAL NG DIYOS.

      Exodo 20:3-5 3 "Huwag kang sasamba sa ibang diyos, maliban sa akin. 4 "Huwag kang gagawa ng imahen ng anumang nilalang na nasa langit, nasa lupa, o nasa tubig upang sambahin. 5 Huwag mo silang yuyukuran ni sasambahin sapagkat akong si Yahweh na iyong Diyos ay mapanibughuing Diyos. Ang kasalanan ng mga magulang ay sinisingil ko sa kanilang mga anak hanggang sa ikatlo at ikaapat na salinlahi.
      Gawa 17: 29 Sapagkat tayo'y mga anak ng Diyos, huwag nating akalaing siya ay tulad lamang ng mga larawang ginto, pilak, o bato na pawang likha ng isip at kamay ng tao.
      Habakuk 2:18-19 18 Ano ang kabuluhan ng diyus-diyosan?
      Tao lamang ang gumawa nito,
      at pawang kasinungalingan ang sinasabi nito.
      Ano ang ginagawa nitong mabuti upang pagkatiwalaan ng gumawa?
      Ito ay isang diyos na hindi man lang makapagsalita.
      19 Mapapahamak kayo! Ginigising ninyo ang isang pirasong kahoy!
      Pinababangon ninyo ang isang bato!
      May maipapahayag ba sa inyo ang isang diyus-diyosan?
      Maaaring ito'y nababalot sa pilak at ginto,
      ngunit wala naman itong buhay.
      Isaias 46:7 Pinapasan nila ito para ilibot sa ibang lugar,
      pagkatapos ay ibabalik sa kanyang lalagyan.
      Mananatili ito roon at hindi makakakilos.
      Dalanginan man ito'y hindi makakasagot,
      at hindi makatutulong sa panahon ng pagsubok

      GANITO KAWALANG KWENTA ANG SINASAMBA NINYONG REBULTO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EDD52LBTF0

      MAGISING NA SANA KAYO SA KATOTOHANAN.

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    3. MGA KAANIB NG KULTO NI MANALONG RAPIST NA PEKENG SUGO! MAGISING NA SANA KAYO SA KASASAMBA SA TAONG SI HESUS NA PINAGBABAWAL NG NG DIOS AMA ANG PAGSAMBA SA TAO!

      Exodo 20:3-5 3 "Huwag kang sasamba sa ibang diyos, maliban sa akin. 4 "Huwag kang gagawa ng imahen ng anumang nilalang na nasa langit, nasa lupa, o nasa tubig upang sambahin. 5 Huwag mo silang yuyukuran ni sasambahin sapagkat akong si Yahweh na iyong Diyos ay mapanibughuing Diyos. Ang kasalanan ng mga magulang ay sinisingil ko sa kanilang mga anak hanggang sa ikatlo at ikaapat na salinlahi.
      Gawa 17: 29 Sapagkat tayo'y mga anak ng Diyos, huwag nating akalaing siya ay tulad lamang ng mga larawang ginto, pilak, o bato na pawang likha ng isip at kamay ng tao.
      Habakuk 2:18-19 18 Ano ang kabuluhan ng diyus-diyosan?
      Tao lamang ang gumawa nito,
      at pawang kasinungalingan ang sinasabi nito.
      Ano ang ginagawa nitong mabuti upang pagkatiwalaan ng gumawa?
      Ito ay isang diyos na hindi man lang makapagsalita.
      19 Mapapahamak kayo! Ginigising ninyo ang isang pirasong kahoy!
      Pinababangon ninyo ang isang bato!
      May maipapahayag ba sa inyo ang isang diyus-diyosan?
      Maaaring ito'y nababalot sa pilak at ginto,
      ngunit wala naman itong buhay.
      Isaias 46:7 Pinapasan nila ito para ilibot sa ibang lugar,
      pagkatapos ay ibabalik sa kanyang lalagyan.
      Mananatili ito roon at hindi makakakilos.
      Dalanginan man ito'y hindi makakasagot,
      at hindi makatutulong sa panahon ng pagsubok

      GANITO KAWALANG KWENTA ANG SINASAMBA NINYONG DIOS, TAO AT NILALANG NA ESPIRITU.
      https://archive.org/details/Akoy_Iglesia_ni_Cristo

      AYAW pang AMININ eh NININIWALA KAYO SA TRINIDAD! MGA IPOKRITO!

      MAGISING NA KAYO SA KASINUNGALINGAN NG MGA MANALO!

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  10. Hi,
    I'm a part of the New Testament church restoration movement.

    Just want to add somethings and clarify some others.

    I. Romans 16:16
    Apostle Paul was not claiming any name for the church there. Church in that context was the congregation itself as the body of Christ(as we all know that the church is the body of Christ). And plainly Paul is addressing the church to greet one another. That was its context. Let us not make it blur. It has its plain meaning there. Even in the Greek text/manuscript of the scripture it tells it plainly. And originally, the church(the congregation/body of Christ) was named in the Greek text as ekklesia meaning Church and it was the name to be used for the church if we are to talk about the name to use for the body of Christ. Well, ekklesia would be more precised not no other translation if we are to go back and beyond the original and precised name for the church. So, the name for the church is not a necessity to argue about but the gospel of christ. If we really want to use the name Church of Christ(Iglesia ni Kristo in Tagalog) we should believe that Jesus is one with God the Father, the divinity of Christ. How can we be called Church of Christ if we do not believe that Jesus is the Christ the son of the living God in his full deity even he came to the world to be like us in full flesh. In short, there will be no Christ in the Church of Christ if we do not believe in him as the same Lord.

    II.RESPECT
    We are to respect one another's belief and faith. The point of rebuking is to bring back the New Testament church. We need not to fight over someone else's belief but to talk about Jesus the son of the living God who died and raised from the dead to save all man kind from the wages of sin. We ought to respect one another, nevertheless we are to rebuke one another in love and not to bring pain to one another. We are to be saved from eternal death. We should be concern to everyone. If we really are to save others from eternal death, we need to teach people what the scripture say about being saved. Jesus is the only way to get to the Father in heaven.

    III. December 25 issue.
    Yes it is true that there is no written record when Jesus was born. But that is not the point. The point here is we commemorate the birth of Christ who has been born for us to save every man from eternal death.

    IV. Idols/Images
    We all read the scripture so it is plain for us that we should not worship (or in any form of idolizing or praising someone to be one who could lead us to heaven) any idols/images/wood craft. :) it is clear in the scripture right? no buts and no other reason to have those. :)

    V. Eating Blood
    But should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. -Acts 15:20, “If any one of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. -Leviticus 17:10. Only you shall not eat the blood; you shall pour it out on the earth like water. -Deutoronomy 12:16. We are reading the Bible so there is no excuse for us not to be able to know this. It is clear and no need to explain. Explanation are opinionated. Let the Bible Speak for us. :)

    IF there is something wrong with this it is okay for me but i will let the Bible speak to us and do not need any explanations. Please let stop arguing. Let us work together for the Glory of the Lord. Let us save humanity from eternal death.

    God bless everyone! :)

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  11. Fact is, THERE WAS THE CHURCH.. and if you trace history which of the many churches was that being mentioned in the Bible is no other than the CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    The CATHOLIC CHURCH is called The CHURCH and because there are a lot of 'churches' claiming to be "The CHURCH" so the UNIVERSAL CHURCH is the only historical institution that can traces its history to the times of the Apostles. Therefore this CHURCH IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    The same CHURCH compiled the Bible. By ITS AUTHORITY she DEFINED what books should be in the Bible!

    That decision IS IRREVERSIBLE! That DECISION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH to have the BOOKS of THE BIBLE remained to be that way until to this day.

    Only when Martin Luther who protested, he ALONE by his own authority removed the APOCRYPHALS and almost considered Catholic Epistles to be less impoortant. So YOU HAVE INCOMPLETE BIBLE while the CHURCH still has the COMPLETE BOOKS.

    So your SOLE AUTHORITY is the BIBLE? Who authorized the FINALITY of that BIBLE you deem have authority over you?

    It's the CHURCH-- the CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    In 1 Tim 3:15, the Bible says that "the CHURCH is the PILLAR and BULWARK of TRUTH"!!! so why you consider the Bible as sole authority when the Bible itself says we should look to the CHURCH which is the PILLAR and BULWARK of TRUTH?

    There is no point of argument when you simply adhere to the TRUTHS of the Bible-- leading you back to the CHURCH which is the PILLAR and BULWARK of TRUTH!!!

    The authority of the Bible says YOU BIBLE ALONE believers should look to the CHURCH-- for it has the TRUTHS in it.

    God bless.

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  12. Proud to be a Catholic, as Jesus have said
    "I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth.Go therefore and make disciples from all nations. Baptize them in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,and teach them to fulfill all that i have commanded
    you. I am with you always until the end of this world" (Matthew 28: 18-20)
    Let us spread the true words of Jesus, of his love, and LET US DEFEND HIS OWN TRUE CHURCH, the CATHOLIC CHURCH...

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  13. sana po kung alam ninyo ang 22o just keep it nalang po para walang sakitan ng damdamin alm po pala ninyo ang mga tunay na aral tpos kung magalit kayo sa mga inc halos magmura magalit kayo sana po i2ro nyo rin po ang paniniwala nyo o ung cnasabi ninyong ebanghelyo na nasa biblia

    sana po magkaroon ng kapayapaan ang lahat

    masaya po ako bilang isang IGLESIA NI CRISTO

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    1. Anonymous na INCorporated member, huwag mong ipagpalagay dito na KAYO ang biktima ng masamang pangangaral. Mismo ang inyong SUGO ang sumisira sa TUNAY na IGLESIANG kay CRISTO-- ang IGLESIA KATOLIKA!

      Heto at nakasulat pa ang paninira niyo sa amin, MISMO sa inyong official magazine.

      1- PASUGO Disyembre 1965, p. 5:
      “Kaninong Ministro kung ganyan ang mga Paring Katoliko? Mga Ministro ni Satanas na Diablo."

      2- PASUGO Oktubre 1959, p. 5:
      “Mga magdaraya at anti-Cristo, ang mga nagtuturong si Cristo ay Dios."

      3- PASUGO Agosto 1962, p. 9:
      “Kaya ang tunay na anti-Cristo, ang mga Papa ng Iglesia Katolika Apostolika Romana. At ang tunay na ampon ng anti-Cristo ay ang mga Katoliko.”

      4- PASUGO Oktubre 1956, p. 1:
      “Ang Iglesia ni Cristo ay nagdaos ng pamamahayag sa Lunsod ng Davao. Nagsalita roon si Kapatid na Felix Manalo at ang kasama niyang mga Ministro. Ipinahayag doon ng mga nagsalita na ang Iglesia Katolika Romana ay hindi itinatag ni Cristo kundi itinatag ng Diablo."

      Magbasa ka pa rito sa ANG KATOTOHANAN TUNGKOL SA INK-1914, baka sakaling maliwanagan ka pa.

      Pero kung hindi na, DIOS na ang bahala sa iyong kaluluwa... sa pagtatwa kay Cristo!!!

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    2. ang mga gawaing katoliko ay hayagang sumasalungat sa bibliya. Kung inyong sisiyasatin nasa bibliya ang pag kakatatag ng inc.

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    3. Salungat sa Biblia? Oh come on.

      On the contrary it's the INC Church of Manalo that is UNBIBLICAL in all it's teachings. Copy-Paste lahat ang mga teachings, walang sariling kanya si FYM kaya PEKE ang INC ni Manalo at PEKE si FYM.

      Oh, btw, anong Bible ba ang gamit niyo? Biblia ng mga Katoliko at Protestante. WALA KAYONG INYO! hahaahahaha..

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    4. UNBIBLICAL TEACHINGS..? PWEDE BANG ISA-ISAHIN MO YANG MGA PINAGSASABI MO..

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    5. John,

      I will give you enouogh time to read ONE-BY-ONE of our OFFICIAL TEACHINGS HERE!

      Oh, and by the way, have you tried reading the history of the Philippines recently? It’s quite TASKING, CONFUSING and BORING right? Well, that’s just less than 200 years

      So I WON’T EXPECT you to UNDERSTAND and COMPREHEND a 2,000 year HISTORY of the CATHOLIC CHURCH, and how it DEVELOPED into a MEGA-RELIGION… 1.2 billion and still growing!

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  14. Kame ba ang bumaluktot ng aral ng katoliko oh ang mga pare nung unang panahon? maraming binago sa aral ng bibliya na ginagawa ngaun sa sanlibutan..... 2lad ng pag tawag ng ama sa pare.... pangungumpisal sa pare....kaya nga may cristong ibinaba ang dyos para ang cristo na ang mamagitan sa ama dahil sya ang taong malapit sa kanya.... pare lang ang umiinum ng katas ng ubas oh dugo ni cristo.... may dadag pa na wag daw mag aasawa ang mga pare pero ndi nmn kaya ng pare na hindi mag asawa..... maraming santo panu qng nag himala ang mnga arroyo oh ang ampatuan magiging santo na cla? sta. arroyo, sto ampatuan? hayyyts sana magsuri muna ang mga umaalipusta sa INC.... tandaan nyo ang iglesia ang katawan ni cristo kaya ang cnu mang umalipusta sa iglesia eh inaalipusta nya na rin ang katawan ni cristo..... iisang bibliya lang ang ginagamit natin sinusunod namen ang nasusulat sa nasabi mong bibliya ninyo na kau ang nagsalin... kau na ang nagsalin ndi nyo nmn naiintindihan ni makita ang hiwaga nito..... dalawang klase ng tao lang nmn ang nagbabasa meron nakakakita at nakakaunawa meron din namang binulag matalino pero ginawang mangmang para ndi makaintindi..... pinapanalangin qng wag sana kaung masama sa mga mangmang sana ndi ka isa sa mga biningi at binulag sa katotohanan.......

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    1. Opo INC po ang bumaluktot sa aral Kristiano. Dahil kami po ay naron na po sa kasaysayan mula pa ng itatag ni Cristo ang kanyang Iglesia.

      Si Felix Manalo na inyong bagong Pastol ay nandaya at sinabing NATALIKO na GANAP ang TUNAY na IGLESIA samantalang ang tunay na Iglesia ay HINDI MANANAIG ang kapangyarihan ng KASINUNGALINGAN ayon sa Mateo 16:18.

      Hindi naman SINUNGALING si Cristo para sabihin niyang HINDI MANANAIG ang KADILIMAN sa kanyang iglesia tapos yon pala nanaig din.

      Kayo ang MAGSURI at huwag kayong basta maniwala sa mga MINISTRO niyong mga BAYARAN.

      Marami ka pang di alam sa pananampalatayang KRISTIANO. Pero nauunawaan namin yan dahil 1914 lang naman kayo kaya't marami kayong DI ALAM sa pananampalataya.

      Ikaw ang pumili ng iyong kaparusahan sa paniniwala sa isang PEKENG SUGO at PEKENG IGLESIA. May panahon pa para ikaw ay maliligtas.

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  15. May kwento aq.... 2tal mahilig nmn sa haka haka ang mga katoliko maraming maling pinaniniwalaan.... mga kapaimbabawan mga kasuklam suklam na gawa sa paningin ng dyos..... pilit nilang cnisiraan ang mga Leader ng INC. bakit sila ang nakikita nyo? bakit ndi nyo siyasatin ang kanilang mga gawa? ang aral ng INC na tugmang tugma sa aral ng panahong itatag ni cristo ang iglesia bago e2 unti unting natalikod..... Linggid sa kaalaman ng mga katolikong iyan kala nila tama parin ang aral na cnusunod nila kala nila sa diyos parin ang aral nila! sasabihin qng hindi na!. Dahil qng babasahin natin ang bibliya nila! na un din nmn ang ginagamit ng INC halos ang ginagawa ng katoliko ay wala na sa bibliya... anu ano ang mga utos umano oh aral ng katoliko na pananampalatayanan nila ngaun na taliwas sa mga naisusulat sa bibliya?
    Tulad ng alin? Tulad ng cnasabi nilang 3 persona oh dyos ama, dyos anak, dyos ispirito sto. ayon sa kanila eh iisa lang daw ang nasabing 3 dyos na yan!! anu ang paliwanag daw d2? as 3 person as 1? wow!! kailan pa nabangit na dyos ang spirito sto. sa bibliya? what verse ang makakapagpa2nay na dyos ang spirito sto.? dyos din ba c cristo? na lagi namang nababangit ni cristo sa kanyang mga apostol na syang anak ng tao... panu mapapatunayan na tao c cristo? Marcos 15:39 Nakatayo sa harap ng krus ang isang kapitan ng mga kawal at kanyang nakita kung paano namatay si Jesus kaya't sinabi nya "TUNAY NGANG ANAK NG DYOS ANG TAONG ITO!". Malinaw nmn cguro ang pagkakasabi TAONG ITO! anu pa ang mababasa ng sa bibliya na c cristo ay tao at ndi xah ang dyos AMA... sa MARCOS 15 parin talatang 34 Nang mag-iikatlo na ng hapon, si Jesus ay sumigaw "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?" na ang ibig sabihi'y "Dyos ko Dyos ko! Bakit mo aq pinabayaan!? Qng xah ang cnasabi ng mga KATOLIKO na dyos AMA kanino sya sumigaw? sa kaniyang sarili ba? OH come on!

    Anu pa ang mapupuna mo sa baluktot na aral ng katoliko na wala na sa bibliya? ang pananalangin sa rebulto oh larawan!! kahit sang parte ng bibliya mo bulatlatin wala kang makikita na sa larawan q oh rebulto q ikaw manalangin oh magdasal. anu sabi ni jesus kapag mananalangin ka Mateo 6:6 Ngunit kapag mananalangin ka, pumasok ka sa iyong silid at isara mo ang pinto. Saka ka manalangin sa iyong AMANG hindi mo nakikita, at gagantihan ka ng iyong AMANG nakakakita ng kabutihang ginagawa mo ng lihim. Mga katoliko anung msasabi nyo sa talatang ito? Xempre magpapaka martir parin 2lad ng STO. PAPAPI nila....

    Anu pa po ang mapapasin natin sa katoliko na ginagawa nila na wala nnmn sa bibliya? 2lad ng Sign of the cross! para daw layuan ka ng masamang ispirito.... bakit pag nakikita nyo ang rebulto nagsisign kau? bakit may masamang ispirito ba sa rebultong un? kahit pag dadaan lang kau sa cmbahan nyo eh nagsisign din kau... tsk tsk...Marami pa sana aqng isusulat na KAMANGKAMANGANG gawa ng katoliko d2 kaso baka ndi kasya sa sobrang dami.... kahit anung paninira nyo sa pamamahala ng INC wala kaung magagawa... Sa gawa at aral ng INC nalang kau tumingin qng meron kaung makikita na baluktot na aral ang INC...... puros kau kay MANALO MANALO pero ndi nyo naman masilipan ng maling aral ang INC.... kaya asar na asar ang katoliko eh Dahil ibinukaka ni ka FELIX Y. MANALO ang mga KAMALIAAN sa ARAL ng IGLESIA KATOLIKA ROMANA... hayag na hayag pati pangalan binago na ng tao IGLESYA KATOLIKA ROMANA na..... edi ndi na kay Cristo!!?

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  16. Sa pagbabasa q sa site na http://catholicdefender2000.blogspot.com nauunawaan q ang gus2ng nyong iparating mga depensor katoliko... Totoong ang Iglesia na tinayo n cristo ay kaung mga iglesia katolika romana... Malayo na nga sa dating pangalan eh na IGLESIA NI CRISTO oh church of christ.... Pwede rin totoo ang cnasabi nyo na hindi pwdng magsinungaling ang cristo sa cnabi nyang hindi makakapasok ang kamatayan sa kanyang iglesia nakasulat nmn eh.....

    Pero hndi nyo maiitangi na nagbabala ang cristo sa mga apostol na sisirain ng mga asong gubat ang kanyang kawan pag alis nya... may binangit din sya qng san manggagaling ang mga asong gubat na e2.... e2 sa GAWA 20:29 hangang 30 Alam qng pagkaalis ko'y magsisipasok ang mababangis na asong gubat at walang patawad na sisilain ang kawan. MULA na rin sa inyo'y lilitaw ang mga taong magsasalita ng kasinungalingan upang mapasunod ang mga alagad at gayo'y mailigaw sila. Ilang taon na po ba ang Iglesia katolika? sabi nyo ngay kau ang una hindi ho ba? Sabi nga sa bibliya eh May mga nauna na mahuhuli at ang huli ay mauuna... Oo ndi po naten mababago ang nakaraan pero pwd baguhin ang kasalukuyan... Isipin nyo sa 1910 taon hangang sa ngaun ng iglesia na itinayo nya na IGLESIA KATOLIKA ROMANA ngaun ng iniwan ng cristo sa pangangalag ng mga apostol eh pwd nyo bang sabihin na naging matatag ang bawat isa sa mga naiwan nya? sa mga naiwan ng mga apostol sa mga naiwan ng naiwan ng apostol pasalin salin hangang sa naiba na ang aral ng DIYOS hangang maging aral na ng TAO ang sinisunod nyo... Nag iwan ba ng minsahe ang cristo na gumawa kau ng rebulto oh larawan q at akoy inyong sambahin sa pamamahitan nyon? MERON ba?! isampal nyo samen qng meron nasusulat na ganyan?!!

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  17. OK, Its good you found your interest to drive more traffic ehh?. Why do people if they talking about Iglesia ni Cristo their is always a big question mark? What about Catholics? Protestant? Born Again's? Any news from them? What about other religions? Why not also question their legitimacy? IGLESIA NI CRISTO WORSHIP GOD, CATHOLICS WORSHIP BUT TALKS ABOUT, POLITICS, YOUR PRIEST EXPERIENCE THE MEMBERS, BLAH!BLAH!BLAH! ITS LIKE AN OPEN FORUM. PRIEST JUST READ A LIL VERSE IN THE BIBLE AND EXPLAIN IT THROUGH THEIR OWN UNDERSTANDING NOT BASED ON THE BIBLE. NOW....YOU TELL ME, CAN YOU PROVE ME THAT CATHOLIC IS LEGIT??? YOU CANT EVEN ORGANIZE YOURSELVES WHILE IN A MASS. AND THE REST IS HISTORY...... ok?

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  18. prrrt!! WALA NG AWAY! TAMA NA ANG BATUHAN NG MASASAKIT SA ISAT-ISA TUNGKOL SA RELIHIYON. IGLESIA AKO NI CRISTO! PERO ISA LANG ANG SASABIHIN KO HUWAG NYO NAMAN KAMI SABIHAN NA SINOSOLO LANG NAMIN ANG PAGLILIGTAS NG PANGINOONG HESUCRISTO...

    KAYA NGA KAMI NAGSASAGAWA NG PAMAMAHAYAG PARA MAKASAMA DIN NAMIN KAYO SA MALILIGTAS.. PERO KUNG IBA TALAGA ANG PANANAW AT UNAWA NYO SA EBANGHELYO NI CRISTO RERESPETUHIN NAMIN YON.. BASTA WALA LANG AWAY PWEDE NAMAN MAG ARALAN NA LANG SA ISAT ISA.. PEACE HEHE

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  19. bible SAID THOU SHALT WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD AND "HIM ONLY" SHALT THOU SERVE


    EH BAKIT ANG IGLESIA NI MANALO SUMASAMBA SA TAONG KRISTO AT SA AMA? SO MALI NANAMAN ANG ARAL NG KULTO NI MANALO! SA HOSEA MAY ISANG SAVIOR SA IGLESIA NI MANALO MAY DALAWANG SAVIOR ANG AMA AT ANG KRISTONG TAO NILA. SA BIBLE MAY ONE LORD PERO SA IGLESIA MAY DALAWANG LORD ANG KRISTONG TAO NILA AT ANG AMA NILA!


    HAHAHAHAHA JESUS SAID I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE JOHN 10:30
    WAKE UP MEMBER OF IGLESIA NI MANALO THE CULT OF THE HISTORY!



    SCRIBES AND PHARISEES ANG KRISTONG TAO NUON AT IGLESIA NI MANALO ANG NAG PAPATULOY NG LEGACY NG KRISTONG TAO NGAYON HAHAHAHAHA



    EVEN IN THE OLD TESTAMENT EH LOTS OF VERSES PROVES THAT GOD IS ONE MADE OF SEVERAL OR IN A PLURAL FORM
    GEN 1:26 US AND OUR
    GEN 3:22 US
    GEN 11:7 US
    ISAIAH 6:8 US
    THE WORD "ONE" IN HEBREW IS "ACHAD" MEANS "SINGULAR AS IN ONE MADE OF SEVERAL"
    FACE THE TRUTH INCult!
    THE INCult MISSION IS TO BRING MORE SOULS TO HELL!
    FOR SATAN HIMSELF TRANSFORMED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT!




    The Word Lord in Hebrew is YAHWEH The Great ‘I AM’
    The Word ‘Your God’ in HEBREW IS ‘ELOHIM’ [GOD IN PLURAL]
    The Word ‘One’ in HEBREW is ‘ACHAD’ [A SINGULAR UNIT MADE OF SEVERAL]
    Deut 6:4
    Hear O Israel The ‘LORD’ [YAHWEH] ‘YOUR GOD’ [ELOHIM] is ‘ONE’ [ACHAD] Lord.
    Mark 12:29
    And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear O Israel; The ‘LORD’ [YAHWEH] ‘YOUR GOD’ [ELOHIM] is ‘ONE’ [ACHAD] Lord


    JESUS IS! CREATOR – Col1:16-17 ONE LORD – 1Cor8;6 SAVIOR – Phil3:20,Jn4:42,2Tim1:10,Titus¬3:6,2Pet1:11 3:18 GOD – Isaiah9:6,Jn1:1 20:28 5:1810:33,Fil2:6,Heb1:8,Luk5:21,1J¬n5:20,Romans9:5 WORD OF GOD – Jn1:1,Rev19:13 KING OF KINGS & LORD OF LORDS – 1Tim6:14-15,Rev19:16 IMMORTAL – 1Tim6:16 UNCHANGEABLE –Heb13:8 LIGHT OF THE WORLD – Jn3:19 8:12 12:46 ONLY TEACHER – Mat10:24, Mat23:8,10, Jn13:13-14 WAY TRUTH LIFE – Jn14:1

    HOLYSPRIT IS GOD! NOT FORCE!
    Acts 5:3-4
    3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that “YOU HAVE LIED TO THE HOLY SPIRIT” and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You “HAVE NOT LIED JUST TO HUMAN BEINGS BUT TO GOD”


    1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding so that we may know the true One. We are in the true One--that is, in His Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.(HCSB)
    GREEK
    KAI ESMEN EN TIO ALITIN EN TU WIU AUTUN INSOU KRISTIO. AUTOS ESTIN O ALITINOS THEOS KAI SUI AIUNIOS.


    JESUS IS GOD!
    New International Version (©2011)
    while we wait for the blessed hope--the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,
    New Living Translation (©2007)
    while we look forward with hope to that wonderful day when the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, will be revealed.
    INCult THE CHURCH OF THE LIVING SATAN!


    JESUS IS GOD
    New International Version (©2011)
    Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:
    New Living Translation (©2007)

    This letter is from Simon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ. I am writing to you who share the same precious faith we have. This faith was given to you because of the justice and fairness of Jesus Christ, our God and Savior.

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  20. KAHANGALAN NG ITIM NA ANGEL


    SABI NG ITIM NA ANGEL NG IGLESIA NI MANALO ANG PTR PROTESTANTE AY SA DEMONYO "DAW"


    PERO ANG INTERPRETASYON NG ISANG PASTOR PROTESTANTE NA NAGNGANGALANG PASTOR CLIP AY GINAMIT NG ITIM NA ANGEL ANG INTERPRETASYON NI PST CLIP UKOL SA "BANAL NA HALIK" SA MAKATUWID KUNG SA DIMONYO ANG PASTOR PROTESTANTE AT GINAMIT NILA ANG PALIWANAG NITO UKOL SA BANAL NA HALIK EH ANG PALIWANAG nLANG NAKUHA NG ITIM NA ANGEL UKOL SA BANAL NA HALIK AY GALING SA DEMONYO!

    CNO ANG DYABLO?

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  21. Kahit Ang Magazine Ni FAKElix Nalilito sa Katotohanan Haha

    Pasugo Feb1957 page39 FAREAST IS THE PHIL.

    VS

    Pasugo July1997 page6 Fareast IS NOT THE PHIL.

    Haha Ano batalaga Ka FAKElix haha The Four FAKElix Angels

    1) Woodrow Wilson - Born-again Christian
    2) Lloyd George - Nonconformist Agnostic
    3) Georges Clemenceau - Atheist
    4) Vittorio Orlando - Roman Catholic

    Ang Katotohanan Sa Pekeng Sugo at Angel KUNO i2 Natupad kay Ka FAKElix 2Cor11:13-14



    TAO o "NAGING TAO"? inCULT kulto MO BUGOK SUMASAMBA SA TAO HAHA

    Jer32:27 is there any thing too hard for me?

    JUAN 1:1 ang SALITA AY DIYOS.


    1:10 NGUNIT D SIYA NAKILALA NG SANLIBUTAN.

    1:14 NAGING TAO ANG SALITA


    1Juan4:2-3 ang nagpapahayag na si Jesu-Cristo ay 'NAGING TAO' ang siyang kinaroroonan ng Espiritong MULA SA DIYOS.



    2Juan1:7 nagkalat sa sanlibutan ang mga MAGDARAYA mga taong HINDI NAGPAPAHAYAG NA C Jesu-Kristoy 'NAGING TAO'. Ang gayong mga Tao ay MAGDARAYA at ANTI-CRISTO.


    Sa TOTOO LANG! Walang Labis WALANG KULANG!

    Gen 1:26 And God said, Let US (PLURAL) make man in OUR (PLURAL) image after OUR (PLURAL) likeness

    27 So God created man in his own(Singular)image in the image of God created he him;

    5:1 In the day that God created man IN THE LIKENESS OF GOD MADE HE HIM.


    GOD IMAGE
    Mat28:19 baptizing them in the NAME (SINGULAR) of the Father & of the Son & of the Holy Ghost:



    MANS IMAGE ARE PARALLEL TO GOD IMAGE

    1Thes5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your (SINGULAR) whole SPIRIT and SOUL & BODY be preserved

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  22. I thought this PROFILE name is "IN DEFENSE OF THE CHURCH"... but what you are doing now is an OFFENSE, actually it doesn't matter if "IGLESIA, IGLESYA, CHURCH"! So we must go to the ORIGINAL TRANSLATION, because the Bible was originally written in Hebrew and Greek.The mere FACT that we must know if Apostle Paul wrote to the Roman (Roman 16:16), what Church is establish by Christ! if it is "CHURCH OF CHRIST" or "ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH" in Greek... But i think in so many Bible Store and there in Vatican City which they Sell right now! ha... What do you think is the NAME MY FRIEND?

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    1. You are right. By EXPOSING the LIES and DECEITFUL claims of the INCorporated Church of Manalo, we are defending the CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST from fake claimers.

      Thanks for the clarification.

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    2. DO NOT DECEIVE PEOPLE!

      Your Church is called the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (not Church of Christ). That's how this church was registered.

      Can you say SAINT MICHAEL BEER for SAN MIGUEL BEER? looool

      The IGLESIA NI CRISTO is for FELIX MANALO
      The CHURCH OF CHRIST is for various protestant groups which registered a church with that similar name.

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  23. malalaman lng ang lahat ng tanong na yan, sa araw ng paghuhukom!! heheh kung sino nga ba ang tunay na may kaligtasan :)

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