"The Christianity of history is not Protestantism. If ever there were a safe truth it is this, and Protestantism has ever felt it so; to be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant." (-John Henry Newman, An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine).

"Where the bishop is, there let the people gather; just as where ever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church". -St. Ignatius of Antioch (ca 110 AD)a martyr later thrown to the lions, wrote to a church in Asia Minor. Antioch was also where the term "Christian" was first used.

“But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth.” 1 Timothy 3:15

"This is the sole Church of Christ, which in the Creed we profess to be one, holy, catholic and apostolic." -CCC 811

Wednesday, March 2, 2011

EXPOSING THE BORN AGAIN MOVEMENT

Anti-Catholic posters in the USA
Photo Source: Keith Major;
Thanks to Catholic Eternal Truth Blog
History of Born Again:

The Born Again Movement traces its origin early in the 19th century. In reaction to Protestant Liberalism a group of Protestant theologians from various denominations (Baptist, Methodist, Episcopalian, Presbyterian, and Evangelicals etc.) wrote a 12 volume book entitled The Fundamentals.

The book contains a compilation of essays of Protestant doctrines and the Born Again Movement adapted their doctrines from this 12 volume books that is why some of their doctrines are similar to those of mainline Protestants. In the strictest sense Born Again Christians is an offshoot of mainline Protestantism, no wonder they claimed to be a non-denominational Church.


Born Again Movement arrived in our shores in the late 1930’s and gained its popularity in the 70’s and 80’s which is considered the golden era of Born Again Movement in the Philippines. During this years membership in various Born Again Churches increase because they where able to infiltrate mainline Protestant Churches and had lured nominal Catholics into their fold.

However their steady growth ceases starting the year 1990 and their membership declined in the succeeding years. In the year 2000 Born Again Churches in the United States send their missionaries in the Philippines to re-established the Born Again Movement and this time their primary mission is no longer to infiltrate Protestant and Catholic Churches but targeted the youth in schools particularly college students.

In Davao City there are various Born Again Churches, the following are the most common Born Again Churches that is actively recruiting students to join their ranks,

House hold of Faith,
Victory Chapel,
G12,
PSALM and Maranatha Family Church.

Born Again evangelist does not want to discuss the history of the Christian church, in their Bible studies with their prospects, they intentionally limit the discussion to the Bible alone. They conceal the history of the Christian religion because it will show that their movement did not originate from the apostles. It is necessary for them to negate history because St. Paul warned us not to accept teachings that did not originate from the apostles Gal.1:8 and Born Again Movement evidently cannot trace the history of their church into the time of the apostles.

Method of Evangelization:

Born Again evangelists employ the basic principles of human psychology in order to lure people into their fold. Their method is both manipulation and deception, let me explain why.

There are two principles that work behind their method emotion and common ground (music). Born Again evangelist realized that music is a common ground among youths, so they adopted music to attract young adults into their churches. If you attend the service of one of these Born Again Churches you can see that their music ministry is like a rock and roll band, they intentionally composed alternative type gospel songs in order to add attraction to their service. In this way those people whom they invited will experience a pleasurable feeling and will come back for more.

Aside from music they add into their arsenal the appeal to the emotions of the people. The sermons of their pastors are directed to stir up the emotions of the listeners and sometimes they would even come to the point of crying in the pulpit that is the reason why their pastors must be a good public speaker.

Born Again evangelist knew that once they where able to touch the person’s emotion it will be very easy to manipulate him. Through music they grant pleasure and through emotional manipulation they control the people, this is a classical example of psychological conditioning (this is also used to train dogs).

Clearly Born Again evangelization has deception as its chief foundation and they even used selected passages from the Bible to deceive people. They usually start evangelizing by asking ambiguous questions such us “Are you saved?” or “Are you born again?”, if the person answers “no or I don’t know” they will tell you that you must accept Christ as a Lord and Personal Savior in order to be born again otherwise you will be damned to hell. And if the person will answer “yes” they will invite you to their church and worship with them. And if the person is a Catholic that would mean that you have to leave the Catholic Church and do away your Catholic beliefs about Mary, the Saints, confession etc. Let us be vigilant not to fall to the snares of the Born Again movement.


EXPOSING THE BORN AGAIN DOCTRINES

Bible Alone Doctrine:


Following the battle cry of the Reformers “Sola Scriptura!” or Bible alone, Born Again Christians will only believed what they can find within the pages of Sacred Scripture. Hence for them historical records, writings of the early church fathers are superfluous. It is virtually impossible to argue with a Born Again in the realm of history because they will just dismiss it as irrelevant to our salvation.

Born Again Christians view the Bible as the final authority for a Christian’s faith and moral not the Church, aside from this they also view the Bible as sufficient for everything related to salvation. They are also strict literalist they have no regard for the historical background of the passages in the Bible. And they take most of the passages as literal unless in contradicts their doctrines.

In support of their false doctrine of Bible alone they frequently quote 2 Timothy 3:16 which says; All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice: a close analysis of this passage will bring out the truth that the Born Again Christians erred in their interpretation of the said passage.

What does Paul mean when he said all scripture is inspired? First and foremost the scripture that Paul is referring here is not the Bible as what we have now but the Old Testament. In verse 15 of the same chapter Paul said to Timothy “from thy infancy thou hast known the holy scriptures”, and during Timothy’s infancy not a single New Testament was ever written yet therefore Paul is clearly referring to the Old Testament as God-breathed or inspired.

Furthermore it states that scriptures that is inspired by God is profitable for teaching, reproving, correcting and instructing, clearly this denotes that Scripture is a tool used by the man of God in the four corners of his ministry to teach, reprove, correct and instruct. The Contemporary English Version of the Bible brings out the clear meaning of this passage “Everything in the Scriptures is God's Word. All of it is useful for teaching and helping people and for correcting them and showing them how to live.”

Nowhere in this passage states that Scripture is sufficient for teaching, reproving, correcting and instructing but rather Scripture is profitable or useful. In John 21:25 it says, But there are also many other things which Jesus did which, if they were written every one, the world itself. I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written.

Every thing that Christ did is important for our salvation and those things that Christ did that were not written down were preserved in the Apostolic Tradition.

The passage 2 Timothy 3:16 does not also prove that Scripture is the only and final authority for a Christian’s faith and morals, because this passage speaks of the nature of Scripture that it is inspired by God and it is a tool used by the man of God for his ministry.

Born Again Christians must rethink and reconsider these questions in their search for the truth; did Christ instruct the Apostles to write the Bible? When Christ ascended to heaven did he left us a Bible or a Church? And lastly did Christ instruct us that the Bible is the final authority or the Church? (cf.Mt.18:18).

The Bible is very clear that the Church founded by Christ is the final authority. In Mt.16:17-19 Christ founded the church and he gave to Peter the keys which symbolize authority and in Mt.18:17-18 this authority is extended to other apostles. In 1 Timothy 3:15, the church is called the pillar and bulwark of truth therefore if we want to know the gospel of Christ go to the Church that He himself founded.

The Church was able to give us the Bible because it is the pillar and bulwark of truth, the contents of the Bible is the very gospel that the church has been preaching for 300 years before the Bible was compiled in 397 A.D at the synod of Carthage.

Furthermore the Bible also tells us that it is not sufficient because not all teachings of Christ where written down.

In 2 Thessalonians 2:15 Paul said “Therefore, brethren, stand fast: and hold the traditions, which you have learned, whether by word or by our epistle.” In this passage Paul urges us all to hold on to the traditions that they handed over to us both by word (Apostolic Tradition) and by epistle (Bible).

Therefore it is absolutely wrong to believe that the Bible alone is sufficient because it is recorded in the Bible the teachings of Christ are handed over to us through Oral/Apostolic Tradition and Sacred Scripture. The Catholic faith is this that we have Sacred Scripture, Apostolic Tradition and an infallible interpreter the Magisterium

Faith Alone Doctrine:

Like any other Protestant Churches, Born Again Christians also believed in the invented doctrine of the Reformers the so called Faith Alone doctrine. Born Again Christians is fond of quoting the Scripture out of its context especially the verses that emphasized the importance of faith.

However Born Again Christians do not express the totality of the Biblical doctrine of salvation since they only select the verses they read and used in their Bible studies. The Born Again always make it a point in their Bible study and preaching that you don’t need to perform good works since God would look into your faith not on your good works.

Protestants divorce faith from good works because part of doing good is obedience, since they do not want to obey the Vicar of Christ the pope hence they dismissed the importance of good works. This doctrine is not only contradictory to Scriptures but it is also heretical (cf. Js.2:24).

The Catholic Church taught us that faith and good works is complementary to each other, we put our faith into action by doing good works. In James 2:26 it clearly denotes that faith cannot be separated from good works since faith without good works is dead.

Even in the time of Christ there were people who believes in faith alone but Christ rebuked them for this erroneous belief. In Mt.7:21, Christ said “not every one who calls me Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of Heaven but he who does the will of my Father in heaven”, in this passage Christ rebukes those who have faith in him alone but does not do the will of the Father.

But what is the will of the Father? In Eph.2:10 we are created for a life of good works since it is through good works that we can put our faith in action, as what St Paul said faith that works through love (cf. Gal.5:6). Although faith is necessary for salvation (cf. Heb.11:6), it must be united with good works.

In Acts 16:30-31 it shows the unity of faith and good works. The jailer asked Paul what must I do to be saved? The phrase “must I do” denotes an action, something the jailer must perform in order to be saved. And Paul answered the jailer “believe on the Lord Jesus”, which connotes that he must have faith in Jesus Christ. Thus combining the thought in the jailer’s inquiry and Paul’s answer it tells us that the act of believing or having faith is not just a mental assent but a good works by itself.

Hence it proves that faith and good works is inseparable from each other. A faith accompanied by good works is a living faith that is why in Paul’s epistle to the Romans 2:7, he told the Romans that eternal life is the reward for those who persevere in doing good works. This is proved by the example of a man named Zacchaeus wherein he put his faith into action by doing good works (cf. Lk.19:8-9).

The Danger of Faith Alone:

The belief in faith alone doctrine of Martin Luther is very dangerous, because it undermines the very fundamental way of cultivating values and putting our faith in practice that is through charity.

If we have faith alone there exist no difference between the devil and us. Because even the devil believes in God (cf. Js.2:19), the fundamental difference between us and the devil is that we are capable of putting our faith into practice by being charitable. And being charitable is being a loving person but the devil is incapable of being charitable hence if we have faith alone and does not have love there is no difference between the devil and us.

In the end of times God will judge us by how we put our faith in action. In Mt.25:32-46, the criteria of God’s judgment will be base on our good works not by faith alone. If we die having our faith alone and faces God for judgment (cf. Heb.9:27) on what basis would God judge us, if we have not done any good works in our life? Would such dead faith saved him? Certainly not!

Conclusion:

Being a faithful Christian means that we must be obedient to God and to the people he mandated to tend His flock. In Luke 10:16, Christ told the seventy two people He mandated to go house to house that those who rejects them also rejects Christ and the Father. In Mt.28:18-20, before he ascended to heaven He mandated his apostles to make disciples to all nations thus those who rejected His disciples also rejects him. And the successors of Christ’s apostles are the bishops that we have now. Hence to reject the bishops and the pope is also rejecting Christ.

41 comments:

  1. Catholics are Born again also... we are born of water ( baptism ) and of spirit ( confirmation )

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    1. instead of exposing Born again, why not exposing your own church which contains all devilish doctrines which opposes directly to the scripture? HOW CA YOU BE BORN AGAIN THAT YOU DON'E EVEN KNOW WHEN TO BE SAVED? A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN ISA SAVED 100% SURE F HIS SALVATION AND HINDI UMAASA SA MGA SANTOS NA SIYANG KINAMUMUHIAN NG SIOS SIMULA'T SAPOL, AT NGAYON SINASAMBA AT HINAHALIKAN NIYO AT KUNG BINSA NIYO LANG BUONG BIBLE MALAMAN NIYO ANG KATOTOHANAN IMBIS NA GUMAWA KAYO NG KAHIT ANONG EXPOSE NA YAN... YOU BETTER DIG YOUR OWN RELIGION SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW HOW FOOLISH YOU ARE BELIEVING ALL THE TEACHINGS OF THE PRIEST NA HINDI NAKABASI SA BIBLE BUT JUST FROM HUMAN PHILISOPHIES, IN FACT IN 10 YEARS OF STUDY SA SEMINARY WALANG TOTOONG THELOGICAL STUDIES DUON, KUNG MERON MAN RELIGIOUS STUDIES LAANG AT MOSTLY RELLIGIOUS TRADITION AT HISTORY LANG ANG PINAG-ARALAN.. AT KUNG TOTOONG NAGBABASA NG BIBLE ANG MGA PARI NIYO GAYA NG IBANG KILALA KO, AYON NAGBAGO SILA MISMO NG DI INUUTUSAN NINO MAN, AT MAY KILALA PA AKO NG PARI MISMO NG UTOS SA IANG MEMBER NA MAGHANAP NG ISANG CHURCH NA NAGTUOR NG BIBLE DAHIL PINAPAALIS NA SIYA SA SIMBAHAN GAWA NG MGA NABASA NIYA SA BIBLE ESPECIALLY ABOUT HOW GOD HATED GRAVEN IMAGES....

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    3. You have already done that part, but full of hate and jelousy. Now, we, Catholics, need to expose the LIES in the Born Again movement. Hey, you were once a cradle Catholic and why fault the whole Church of the things your own failures. :)

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  2. how can you be born of spirit?

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    1. The Sacrament of regeneration by water in the word. By nature we are born from Adam children of wrath, but by Baptism we are regenerated in Christ, children of mercy. For He gave power to men to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name, who are born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." (Catechism of the Council of Trent)

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  3. Roman Catholics brainwash by saying their Church was founded by Christ.. Before Roman Catholics existed, there were Jewish Christians, Pauline Christians, Gnostics, etc. After killing Christ Himself, the Romans killed the early Christians, even prosecuted Paul. After Peter, Paul, and the early leaders died, Christianity was still becoming popular so scholars argue the ruthless Emperor Constantine of Rome accepted Christianity in 312 AD because "if you can't defeat them, join them." Romans had conflict with the Jews from the start because of their differences. Romans were polytheistic and pagans..the Jews (including Christ and the early Christians) were monotheistic and don't believe in religious images because the second of the Ten Commandments given to them says so..After Rome accepted Christianity, other religions was still practiced by Rome and continued their paganistic culture (even erased the 2nd commandment and divided the 1st commandment to make their own ten commandments)..eventually for hundreds for years, Rome being the most powerful, Roman Catholics became the mainstream so called Christians..eventually their own leaders left them because they didnt like that they changed the Bible and have practices that contradict the Bible and created the Orthodox church and later on the Protestant church

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    1. Kami pa ngayon ang brainwashed eh KASAYSAYAN ang nagpapatunay na This is the CHURCH Christ have founded.

      Eh kayo, ipakita niyo nga kung kailan FOUNDED ang inyong Church?

      Manigas kayo sa inggit!

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    2. When Jesus said in Matt. 16:18.. "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it." Is Jesus is in the Rome that time?..Absolutely not because they were in the Israel and gathering lost sheeps in the hose of Jacob. In fact, there were already churches established before there was a church in Rome (e.g church in Judea, Samaria, Galilee, Jerusalem). Are these churches wasn't founded these churches?..Of course, they were founded by Christ. According to 2 Corinthians 6:16.."What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

      “I will live with them
      and walk among them,
      and I will be their God,
      and they will be my people.”

      And also Romans 12:4-5.."For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.

      Each one of the believers is the temple of God..and in the congregation, believers gather and form the church..and so with the churches having communication and relation with other churches forms the body of Christ, the church, that has been said by Jesus that "he will build in this rock( meaning starting from the land of Israel) and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.." For many believers will continually know the Truth through the Word of God alone and having faith in God the Father and in Christ Jesus.

      Final sayings about Sola Scriptura that supports other Christian doctrines...

      According to 1 Corinthians 4:6..

      Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other.

      Continue to know God in His Word and always having faith in Him and do every good works not to gain salvation but to please Him in every way.

      Just stick in Word of God not on the traditions of men.
      Mark 7:6-9,13:

      He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:

      “‘These people honor me with their lips,
      but their hearts are far from me.
      7 They worship me in vain;
      their teachings are merely human rules.
      8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”

      9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!

      13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”

      God bless and may God put the light in your midst...Praise the Lord

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    3. Hahahaha....

      Did any Catholic claimed that Jesus was in Rome for that matter? Fool! What kind of lame understanding is that...

      You're funny... so do you think Jesus was in the PHilippines and talked with your fake sugo to "re-establish" HIS CHURCH which your fake sugo said COMPLETELY APOSTATIZED?

      Show me ONE SINGLE VERSE that predicted that the CHURCH OF CHRIST (not the registered trademark) would COMPLETELY APOTATIZE and that a certain FELIX MANALo in the PHILIPPINES would "re-establish" it?

      It seems that you want to impress us of your "expertise" in the Bible, show us one verse... just one...

      DECEIVERS!!!

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    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdyJTdf-0CA

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    5. You can't stop the truth... parang bulldozer yan walang hinto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_of_Antioch

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    6. Amen! Hey Catholic defender! Are you hurt? Because the truth hurts! Atsaka bat ganyan yung attitude mo? Ganyan ba itinuro sayo ng religion mo?

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    7. Amen! Ang totoong Kristiano nakikita. Kayo na nga nagsabi na faith without act is dead. Bat ganyan ka magsalita. Good works? Bakit di makita?

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    8. Hey Vinz Agarro, Well, what triggered you to comment? Was it because you were hurt and that you need to tell me I'm the one who was hurt when obviously you're the one who croaked?

      Bakit di mo makita ang alin? Ang isang bulag ay hindi talaga makakakita kahit sa ilalim ng liwanag ng araw sapagkat nabulag na sila kanilang kamang-mangan sa katotohanan. At ang katotohanan sa kanila ay isang kasinungalingan kaya sila ay nakikiayon sa kadiliman sapagkat hindi na sila anak ng liwanag kundi anak na sila ng kadiliman.

      Ganyan ang mga Protestante ngayon na pilit na pinababagsak ang Iglesia Katolika pero hindi nila kaya. Ngayon ay unti-unti silang nagwawatak-watak at sa kasalukuyan ay may humigit kumulang na 40,000 iba't ibang mga "churches|" or "fellowship" na independently operating from each other.

      Lat sila ay nagsasabing BIBLIA lang daw ang kanilang sinusunday pero THE SAME BIBLE DIVIDED them into smaller splinter of sects..

      On the contrary, the CATHOLIC CHURCH is still the largest single religious group in the world, having 1.2 billion adherents, next are the Sunni Muslims which has almost a billion followers too...

      Kung magbasa kayo ng mga CONVERSION STORIES ang isang convert ng Protestante ay PURO PANGHUHUSGA, PANLALAIT at PANINIRA sa Katoliko. Ang tawag niya sa Katoliko ay mga pagano at mga kampon ng kadiliman.

      Ang isang Protestante na naging Katoliko ay puro PAPURI at PASASALAMAT ang binabanggit at ang tawag niya sa mga Protestante ay mga "kapatid" na nangangailangan pa ng pagdarasal at pagpapaliwanag...

      So sa dalawang converts, sino ang tunay na convert?

      Ikaw na ang makakasagot niyan... MABUHAY ANG IGLESIA KATOLIKA at ang mga KATOLIKO!

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  4. Matt12:46-50 John 3:1-21 John 14:6 Exodus 20:4-6

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    1. Matty, needs to read the acts of the apostle, to know what n how the Lords day is about. He need to start from elementary school to learn history. He is the brainwashed

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  5. Please dig deep and understand what the Scripture is saying that you also have to consider the culture, the event, and the time it was written by the author, whenever you read the bible that's why we have Magisterium. If you solely depend on your own interpretation of the bible it would be dangerous. Don't just cherry pick tailoring verses to come up of what you want us to believe.

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  6. Or ask this to your pastors: HOW CAN YOU ASSURE US THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS FREE FROM DOCTRINAL ERROR?

    I ask this to one pastor and he told me... "God back to the Bible"...

    So I said, therefore I dont need you. I just only need the Bible.

    And WHO made the Bible that I should believe?

    it's the CHURCh.. the Catholic Church.. therefore the Bible is leading me back to that authoritative body which made the Bible possible for me... free from doctrinal error.

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  7. @Cath

    where did you get the idea that catholic church made the bible?
    your right when you said " i just only need the bible"

    * reading the bible is the most important thing to do

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  8. @Anonymous

    Where did you get the idea that the Catholic Church "made" the Bible.

    What we say is that we OWN the Bible because without the Catholic Church there is NO BIBLE.

    And that is NOT an IDEA but a FACT!

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  9. @cath

    did you know that the "Old Testament" (1 part of the bible) is existed before the Catholic churh begin. SO
    HOW can you say that the Catholic OWN the bible..???
    the Scripture it self (bible) has no owner this is the Word of God - for all the People also for the sinners.
    there is no Trademark,(r),etc that the bible has owner

    " And that is NOT an IDEA but a FACT! " - this is ONLY YOUR OPINION

    let me tell you this

    THE BIBLE IS THE LIFE because this is THE WORD OF GOD - its like WATER even you transfer it to thousand of glass (different version) its STILL WATER. you need to have Faith to the BIBLE not to the POPE.

    Im not saying that the POPE is Bad. hes only a MAN, you need to focus to what Jesus told us to do.

    cath i know your a Good Man/Woman and you want to Save just like me. you can stay in Roman Catholic if you WANT but please read the bible and do what the bible say. ITS THE ONLY WAY

    im here not to argue with you, but to help you(if you want)

    God Bless you and your Family

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  10. The BORN AGAIN movement was allegedly founded by the CSI of the United States....well this is a well kept secret....they saw how slow and hard to control the the catholic countries are....they know that US cannot control these countries if the Church is strong in it....thus....operation demolition, they came when the americans came.....when they saw how strong was the influence of the Friars in the people........it boomed again in the 70's, esp. the 80's when, a Bishop, the late Cardinal Sin has called for the EDSA movement......Marcos, tuta ng mga Americano, they felt safe, but when they saw again the power of the Church to oust a dictator like Marcos, double effort sila....Born Again Movement is not a religion, it is a strategy, a system....to destroy not only the Catholic Church but any religion that will go against the U.S.

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  11. born again is not a religion - BIG RIGHT cause Born again is it something that happen to person, we discovered the truth, born again in holy spirit.
    you cant save by HISTORY - only Jesus Christ can save us
    so you need to know what Jesus teach us - Only the Bible can answer

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  12. Just stop arguing about this. Respect one another's belief. If you feel the presence of the Lord in your current religion, then do His teachings. Arguing regarding this matter won"t lead into such answers. It will just spread hatred among us. Remember what the Lord said. LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.
    May God be with you everyone..

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    1. Have you done something to stop these deceivers from converting ignorant Catholics to their fold? Jesus even said it's better for that man to put stone in his neck and to be thrown into the sea. That's harsh yet what Jesus meant there is to be vigilant and to be pro-active, evangelize and DEFEND the faith.

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  13. If each person is left to interpret the bible, and many interpret it differently,which interpretation is correct?

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  14. The Catholic Church Wrote,Translated, Copied and preserve GOD'S Word throughout the ages.
    That is the only reason they own the BIBLE.
    Quit trying to interpret the scriptures without the BIBLE, because it is the BIBLE on the Church, the church before the BIBLE.

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  15. GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD!!!
    Historically, nobody claims he/she founded the Born Again Church. - Isaiah 42:8, "My glory I will not give to another, nor my praise to carve images." So God will not give His glory to the founder of any man-made religion - Catholic Church (founded by Constantine the Great), Methodist (by John Wesley), Baptist (by John Smyth), Seventh Day Adventist (by William Miller), Latter Day Saints (by Joseph Smith), Jehovah's Witness (by Charles Taze Russel), Iglesia ni Cristo (by Felix Manalo), etc. God through Jesus Christ, establish only ONE CHURCH.

    In Ephesian 4:4 - There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

    HOW ARE THEY CALLED?
    During Apostle Paul's time, they are not called by any man-made religion - "I am a Roman Catholic", I am a Baptist, I am a Mehodist, I am Jehovah's Witness, I am a Mormon, I am an Iglesia ni Cristo, I am a Seventh Day Adventist etc., they are called by Jesus Christ name "Christians" - Acts 11:25-26, Acts 26:26-28, & 1 Peter (4:16)
    My faith is on Jesus Christ " The Rock of Our Salvation" for he was the one who was crucified for our sins." Our Everlasting Father to whom I was named - "Christian" Isaiah 9:6, For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given;And the government will be upon His shoulder.And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. TO GOD BE THE GLORY AND TO HIM ALONE!!! GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD!!!

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    1. YOU SAID: "...founder of any man-made religion - Catholic Church (founded by Constantine the Great), Methodist (by John Wesley), Baptist (by John Smyth), Seventh Day Adventist (by William Miller), Latter Day Saints (by Joseph Smith), Jehovah's Witness (by Charles Taze Russel), Iglesia ni Cristo (by Felix Manalo), etc. God through Jesus Christ, establish only ONE CHURCH."

      MY RESPONSE: I almost fell on where I was seated when I read your comments. Really, are you serious? Constantine “founded” the Catholic Church? Wow! It’s either you’re a honestly ignorant or a totally dumb in history.

      Let me help you with your ignorance.

      According to the Timeline of Christianity, CONSTANTINE had a vision of the sun in 312 A.D. In the following year (313 A.D.), the famous EDICT OF MILAN was promulgated thus ENDING Christian persecution in all the ROMAN EMPIRE.

      Then the COUNCIL OF ROME (314 A.D.) followed which Constantine had summoned.

      Remember the dates ok. It’s 312-314 A.D.

      Between 98 A.D. – 117 A.D., ST. IGNATIUS OF ANTIOCH recorded first the word ‘CATHOLIC’ in his epistle.
      “"Where the bishop is, there let the people gather; just as where ever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church". -St. Ignatius of Antioch (ca 110 AD)a martyr later thrown to the lions, wrote to a church in Asia Minor. Antioch was also where the term "Christian" was first used.

      You see the Emperor Constantine and St. Ignatius of Antioch was separated by 214 YEARS, how could Constantine FOUNDED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH when the Catholic Church had been fully established years before Constantine was even born.

      True, there is ONLY ONE CHURCH and that ONE CHURCH was clearly RECOGNIZED by the CHURCH FATHERS as the ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC and APOSTOLIC CHURCH. Like it or not, but that’s recorded in history!

      Now I realized, you’re playing like a history expert, or a habitual LIAR!

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    2. GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD!
      Isaiah 42:8, "My glory I will not give to another, nor my praise to carve images."

      WHAT’S IN A NAME?
      According to History of the Roman Catholic Church (Wikipedia), it was Emperor Constantine I who decreed the legalization of Christianity in 313 A.D. and I quote:

      Christianity spread throughout the early Roman Empire, despite persecutions due to conflicts with the pagan state religion. In 313, the struggles of the Early Church were lessened by the legalisation of Christianity by the Emperor Constantine I

      IT TOOK 313 YEARS, for the birth of the first man-made religion - the Roman Catholic Church!
      For 312 years the followers of Christ were only called “CHRISTIANS” (Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28, 1 Peter 4:16) by the name of Christ. After the birth of the Roman Catholic Church 313 A.D the followers were called ROMAN CATHOLICS??? Roman Catholics profess that they are also Christians for they believe in Christ, but which comes first? REMEMBER GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD!!!

      ROMAN CATHOLIC’S PROFESSION OF FAITH
      Roman Catholic’s profession of faith is FIRST - I’m a Roman Catholic, SECOND - but I’m also a Christian. Do you make the name of Christ SECOND only to your RELIGION??? Thou shall not use the Lord name in vain. GOD WILL NOT GIVE HIS GLORY TO THE ROMANS!

      Even Apostle Peter, who is considered by the Roman Catholic Church as the FIRST POPE says in I Peter 4:16, “Yet if any man suffer as a CHRISTIAN, let him be not ashamed, but let him GLORIFY GOD on this behalf.” He did not say if you suffer as a Roman Catholic! In the first place Peter is a JEW not a ROMAN. FOR SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS NOT OF THE ROMANS!

      SO IF YOU PROFESS THAT YOU ARE A “CHRISTIAN”, YOU ARE GLORIFYING GOD! THE NAME THAT IS ABOVE EVERY NAME!

      TO GOD BE THE GLORY AND TO HIM ALONE! GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD!

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  16. GIVE GLORY TO GOD AND TO HIM ALONE!
    THEREFORE ROMAN CATHOLICS SHOULD BE CALLED “IGNATIANS” NOT CHRISTIANS!
    I admit that I am not completely aware of the Timeline of Christianity but when you showed it to me in your last reply, I’ve made my research and I’ve learned that the doctrines, teachings and practices of the Roman Catholic Church were BASED and DERIVED from the DOCTRINES and EPISTLES of ST. IGNATIUS OF ANTIOCH!
    I was STUNNED on how the Roman Catholic Church ADOPTED all of St. Ignatius of Antioch’s doctrines which are NOT WRITTEN in the Bible and which are a DIVIATION from the doctrines and teachings of Christ in the New Testament! St. Ignatius of Antioch first changed the name of the FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST from CHRISTIANS to CATHOLICS. In the New Testament - Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28, and 1 Peter 4:16 the followers of Christ were called CHRISTIANS.
    Yes, the Roman Empire joined Christianity but on their rules not on the rules of Christ. For they want to have this as their LEGACY? Now Christ is under the rules of the GREAT Roman Catholic Church the EMPIRE of the ROMANS. BUT GOD WILL NEVER GIVE HIS GLORY TO THE ROMANS!!!
    Catholics should be called “IGNATIANS”, just the same as the other religions: the Baptist should be called the CALVINIANS for they follow the doctrines of John Calvin, the Methodist should be called WESLEYANS for they follow the doctrines of John Wesley, the Seventh Day Adventist, MILLERIANS for they follow the doctrines of William Miller, the Jehovah’s Witness, RUSSELLIANS for they follow the doctrines of Charles Taze Russell, the Latter Day Saints, SMITHIANS, for they follow the doctrines of Joseph Smith and the Iglesia Ni Kristos, MANALOIANS, for they follow the doctrines of Felix Manalo.
    JESUS CHRIST, THE NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME!
    Philippians 2:9-10
    9 Therefore God also highly exalted him and gave him the name that is ABOVE every name, 10 so that at the NAME of JESUS every knee should bend, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the GLORY of GOD the FATHER.
    1 Peter 4:16
    16 Yet if any of you suffers as a CHRISTIAN, do not consider it a disgrace, but GLORIFY GOD because you bear this NAME.
    TO GOD BE THE GLORY AND TO HIM ALONE! GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD!

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  17. Kanino na ba inutos ang Ark, Cherubim at ginto ahas? Sa Israel ba o sa mga Kristiano? Ito ba ay maikukumpara para I justify ang maling pagsamba na di naman inutos ng Diyos? Ano ang significance nito sa kasaysayan ng Israel at ito ba ay nag eexist pa ngayon? (READ FIRST BEFORE POSTING COMMENT):

    Maliwanag ang sinasabi ng ikalawang utos na “WAG KANG GAGAWA NG ANUMANG INANYUHAN NA WANGIS NG TAO O HAYOP SA LANGIT O SA LUPA MAN pagka’t ang DIYOS AY “ESPIRITU” at katotohanan sila na sumasamba sa Diyos ay DAPAT sumamba sa “ESPIRITU” at katotohanan... (–JOHN 4:24) Laging dinadahilan ng mga iba ang Ark, Cherubim at ang Ahas?

    UNA: Ang mga bagay na ito ay inutos sa ISRAEL hindi sa mga Kristiano o kanino pa man… ayon sa kasaysayan ng Israel…

    PANGALAWA: Ang significance nito sa Israel na ibang iba sa mga rebulto o imaheng hindi naman inutos ng Diyos! Hindi dinalanginan ng Israel ang mga ito liban sa ahas kung saan napahamak ang marami at ito ay pinasira ni Moses… ang Ark, Cherubim at Ahas ay hindi na nag eexist ngayon sa Israel tulad ng dati (2 KINGS 18:4)

    PANGATLO: Kung ginagaya ito ng ibang religious sectors at ganito ang pagrarason nila MAG PISTA NA RIN KAYA SILA NG TINAPAY NA WALANG LIBADURA AT PAMPASKUWA at gayahin ang mga bagay ng Israel noon? SUBALIT TAYO AY HENTIL AT MGA KRISTIANO naligtas sa biyaya ng Diyos sa pamamagitan ni Kristo Hesus…

    PANG-APAT: IBA ANG GRAVENN IMAGES SA MGA BAGAY NA INUTOS NG DIYOS SA ISRAEL na pinabanal ng Diyos at sa mga bagay na HINDI NAMAN INUTOS NG DIYOS bagkus utos lang ng simbahaban, tao at mga maling paniniwala o tradisyon…
    Ginagawa pang dahilan ng iba si RIZAL? Tandaan nating ang DIYOS ay hindi taong tulad natin na kailangan Niya ng rebulto para maalala natin Siya ang tunay na pananampalataya nasa mga bagay na ESPIRITUAL hindi sa mga bagay na nakikita ng mata… at ang tunay na sumampalataya kay Kristo ay hindi nakakalimot at nasa puso Niya ito kailanman… [DAHIL HINDI BINIBIGAY NG DIYOS ANG KANYANG PURI SA MGA BAGAY NA GAWA NG MAKASALANANG TAO NA HINDI NAMAN INUTOS NG DIYOS!]

    PANG-LIMA: Sinumpa ng Diyos ang mga sumasamba sa mga rebulto sa ano pa mang kaparaanan hanggang sa ikaapat na salinlahi at dahilan ng maraming pagkakasala maging sa panahong ito… DAHIL ANG TUNAY NA PAPURI, DALANGIN, PAGLILINGKOD AT PAGSAMBA AY SA DIYOS LAMANG HINDI SA TAO O BAGAY!!! Kaya napakahalaga rin ng mga tanong na ito NA MAY INUTOS BA? WAG TAYONG HIHIGIT SA NASUSULAT! Sabi ni Pablo…

    ITO ANG LAGING INIIWASAN NA TANONG AT DI NASASAGOT NG IBA NG DIRETSO kundi puro opinion lang nila KUNG SAAN VERSE MAKIKITA NA GAWAN MO SIYA NG REBULTO O IMAHEN NIYA TSAKA MO YUKURAN O DALANGINAN ITO?! MALIWANAG WALA NI ISA! MAGDADAHILAN PA NG LIHIS AT MGA OFF CONTEXT VERSES NA DI NILA NAUUNAWAAN…

    MARAMING SALAMAT SA PAGBABASA… SI HESUS ANG TANGING DAAN SA LANGIT! (JOHN 3:16) JESUS SAVES!!! Carm.org and thebereans.net to see more about religious cults profile…

    [LISTEN TO PASTOR ED LAPIZ SA YOUTUBE FOR MORE BIBLE PREACHINGS AND INSPIRATIONAL MESSAGES OR LISTEN TO 702 DZAS (FEBC.ORG) OR WATCH 700 CLUB ASIA (CLUBASIA.ORG)... Visit www.gotquestions.org and www.christiansanswers.net for more info and more bible research.]

    #Message from BAPTIST CHURCH…

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  18. Roman Catholic Idolaters

    Kanino na ba inutos ang Ark, Cherubim at ginto ahas? Sa Israel ba o sa mga Kristiano? Ito ba ay maikukumpara para I justify ang maling pagsamba na di naman inutos ng Diyos? Ano ang significance nito sa kasaysayan ng Israel at ito ba ay nag eexist pa ngayon? (READ FIRST BEFORE POSTING COMMENT):

    Maliwanag ang sinasabi ng ikalawang utos na “WAG KANG GAGAWA NG ANUMANG INANYUHAN NA WANGIS NG TAO O HAYOP SA LANGIT O SA LUPA MAN pagka’t ang DIYOS AY “ESPIRITU” at katotohanan sila na sumasamba sa Diyos ay DAPAT sumamba sa “ESPIRITU” at katotohanan... (–JOHN 4:24) Laging dinadahilan ng mga iba ang Ark, Cherubim at ang Ahas?

    UNA: Ang mga bagay na ito ay inutos sa ISRAEL hindi sa mga Kristiano o kanino pa man… ayon sa kasaysayan ng Israel…

    PANGALAWA: Ang significance nito sa Israel na ibang iba sa mga rebulto o imaheng hindi naman inutos ng Diyos! Hindi dinalanginan ng Israel ang mga ito liban sa ahas kung saan napahamak ang marami at ito ay pinasira ni Moses… ang Ark, Cherubim at Ahas ay hindi na nag eexist ngayon sa Israel tulad ng dati (2 KINGS 18:4)

    PANGATLO: Kung ginagaya ito ng ibang religious sectors at ganito ang pagrarason nila MAG PISTA NA RIN KAYA SILA NG TINAPAY NA WALANG LIBADURA AT PAMPASKUWA at gayahin ang mga bagay ng Israel noon? SUBALIT TAYO AY HENTIL AT MGA KRISTIANO naligtas sa biyaya ng Diyos sa pamamagitan ni Kristo Hesus…

    PANG-APAT: IBA ANG GRAVENN IMAGES SA MGA BAGAY NA INUTOS NG DIYOS SA ISRAEL na pinabanal ng Diyos at sa mga bagay na HINDI NAMAN INUTOS NG DIYOS bagkus utos lang ng simbahaban, tao at mga maling paniniwala o tradisyon…
    Ginagawa pang dahilan ng iba si RIZAL? Tandaan nating ang DIYOS ay hindi taong tulad natin na kailangan Niya ng rebulto para maalala natin Siya ang tunay na pananampalataya nasa mga bagay na ESPIRITUAL hindi sa mga bagay na nakikita ng mata… at ang tunay na sumampalataya kay Kristo ay hindi nakakalimot at nasa puso Niya ito kailanman… [DAHIL HINDI BINIBIGAY NG DIYOS ANG KANYANG PURI SA MGA BAGAY NA GAWA NG MAKASALANANG TAO NA HINDI NAMAN INUTOS NG DIYOS!]

    PANG-LIMA: Sinumpa ng Diyos ang mga sumasamba sa mga rebulto sa ano pa mang kaparaanan hanggang sa ikaapat na salinlahi at dahilan ng maraming pagkakasala maging sa panahong ito… DAHIL ANG TUNAY NA PAPURI, DALANGIN, PAGLILINGKOD AT PAGSAMBA AY SA DIYOS LAMANG HINDI SA TAO O BAGAY!!! Kaya napakahalaga rin ng mga tanong na ito NA MAY INUTOS BA? WAG TAYONG HIHIGIT SA NASUSULAT! Sabi ni Pablo…

    ITO ANG LAGING INIIWASAN NA TANONG AT DI NASASAGOT NG IBA NG DIRETSO kundi puro opinion lang nila KUNG SAAN VERSE MAKIKITA NA GAWAN MO SIYA NG REBULTO O IMAHEN NIYA TSAKA MO YUKURAN O DALANGINAN ITO?! MALIWANAG WALA NI ISA! MAGDADAHILAN PA NG LIHIS AT MGA OFF CONTEXT VERSES NA DI NILA NAUUNAWAAN…

    MARAMING SALAMAT SA PAGBABASA… SI HESUS ANG TANGING DAAN SA LANGIT! (JOHN 3:16) JESUS SAVES!!! Carm.org and thebereans.net to see more about religious cults profile…

    [LISTEN TO PASTOR ED LAPIZ SA YOUTUBE FOR MORE BIBLE PREACHINGS AND INSPIRATIONAL MESSAGES OR LISTEN TO 702 DZAS (FEBC.ORG) OR WATCH 700 CLUB ASIA (CLUBASIA.ORG)... Visit www.gotquestions.org and www.christiansanswers.net for more info and more bible research.]


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  19. TUNAY NA IGLESIA AT RELIHIYON!
    (Pananampalataya at Katotohanan)

    BASAHIN AT UNAWAIN: Una po sa lahat ang tunay na Iglesia at Relihiyon ay nagsimula sa Israel noong 33AD at hindi sa Roma o sa Pilipinas kahit maraming nag aangkin at nagbabase sa pangalan o sariling interpretasyon at pinagmulan ng kanilang sekta. Ang basehan sa isang tunay at malinis na Simbahan o Relihiyon ay nakabatay sa "TURO" o sa kung ano ba ang tinuturo ng mga tunay na Kristiano na ang nagtatag ay si "KRISTO" hindi kung sinong Founder, Pope, Pastor O Ministro. Ang Iglesia o Simbahan ay binubuo ng mga TUNAY NA MANANAMPALATAYA o ang mga tumanggap kay Hesus bilang Panginoon at Tagapagligtas (Juan 3:16) kaya sila ay pinapaging banal hindi ayon sa kanilang katwiran kundi dahil sa habag at biyaya ng Diyos. (Epeso 2:8-9); Na ang sinasamba ay ang Iisang DIYOS lamang sa Tatlong Persona (Ama, Anak at ang Espiritu Santo... Mateo 28:18-19) na sa pasimula pa ay nagkakaisa at bago likhain ang mundo ayon sa plano ng Diyos; SAMBAHIN ANG DIYOS SA "ESPIRITU AT KATOTOHANAN" Juan 4:24. (Idolaters will not inherit the Kingdom of God). Walang sinumang pwedeng umangkin na sila ang tama kung ang tinuturo ay ayon lamang sa kanilang tradisyon at turo ng kanilang simbahan o pinaniniwalaan.Umaasa po kaming patuloy nating pag-aralan ang SALITA NG DIYOS at wag manatili sa nakagisnan o sa kung ano lamang ang ating gustong pakinggan dahil maliwanag ang sinasabi ng Bibliya "Malawak ang daan sa impyerno at makipot ang daan sa Langit..." Mayroong universal at local Church mayroon din namang gantimpala ang Diyos sa mga tapat at ang kahatulan sa mga di sumampalataya (Apocalypsis 20:15). Although walang Kristianong di nagkakasala pero kalooban ng Diyos na tayo ay manatiling tapat sa Kanyang pag-ibig at sa kapayapaan. Maraming Salamat Kaibigan at pagbabasa.

    Kung may mga katanungan pa bumisita sa www.gotquestions.org lagyan ng /tagalog para sa ating sariling wika at bumisita din sa www.thebereans.net para pag-aralan ang iba ibang sekta at turo kung ito ay batay sa Bibliya. (NOTE: ANG MGA SITE NA ITO AY INDEPENDENT AT MAKAKATULONG SA INYONG PAG-AARAL UPANG LUBOS NA MAKILALA ANG DIYOS, SI KRISTO, ANG BIBLIYA AT ANG TUNAY NA IGLESIA.)

    Also join us in our fight against Corruption and Crime at iboto natin yung mga tamang kandidato na maganda ang Karakter, may Kakayahan at may Katapatan..." -PILIPINAS PARA KAY HESUS AT SA PAGBABAGO MOVEMENT.

    KNOW THE [TRUTH] AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE! JESUS SAID: "I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE [LIFE]; NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME..." (John 8:32/John 14:6)

    -Fundamental Evangelical Christian Church

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    1. A 'Johnny-come-lately' religion teaching CAtholics about HISTORY? Looool... I didn't know that FECC are comedians.

      Thanks but hey Jacob, you might want to consider this quote that I got from Bl. Cardinal Newman when he said "To be deep in history is to cease to be a protestant".

      Afraid of DELVING DEEP INTO HISTORY? Yes I understand. If you do so, it will covert you to Catholicism.

      PRO DEO ET ECCLESIA!

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  20. Religion? How about Jesus? Can a priest save you? Can a Church save you? Can a group of good people save you from Hell? or Can your church, or any denomination catholic or born again can save your soul? What is the important thing that you cannot lose that you cannot live to save it? Can your Faith save you or your Good works? Whether it is Good works or faith what profits them both if you don't have Jesus Please be informed what was written in Romans 10:13 Whoever calls upon the name of the LORD shall be saved, was there anyone or any requirement mentioned, I also i don't like the idea of cherry picking the bible it's not scriptural, not healthy. What is important is to focus on what Jesus commanded. Not anyone or some organisation said.

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    1. What is your problem? Can a pastor save you? I know where these questions is leading. YOu want to debunk the Catholic Church as a mere group that has no salvation in it.

      Sorry but I am not buying that. God bless you.
      Come back home to the Catholic Church. This is the real Church Jesus founded.

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