Bakit nanginginig sa takut si Eli Soriano na makipagtalakayan kay Fr. Darwin Gitgano?

 

DID JESUS PRE-EXIST BEFORE HIS BIRTH ON EARTH? by Duane Cartujano

Source: Facebook

First, it is clear in John 17:5 what Jesus told the FATHER. Jesus said “I had in your presence before the world existed.” This proves Jesus already existed before the world existed. Logos was with the Father.

Second, we can read in 1 Peter 1:11 that the phrase, “the Spirit of Christ within them”. "inquiring about the person or time that the Spirit of Christ within them indicated when it testified in advance to the sufferings destined for Christ and the subsequent glory."(1 Peter 1:11)

Engr. Rafael Riorito O. Estorque's Article on Panoncillo (INC™) vs Cartujano (Catholic) Debate

7 VERSUS 1 – 1 IS THE WINNER? 

By Engr. Rafael Riorito O. Estorque

If we watch the debate, Mr. Cartujano admitted he was not able to provide a magazine xerox or answer the question of Mr. Panoncillo about the pasugo issue. Mr. Panoncilo was referring to page 11 of the book, Answering Iglesia ni Cristo. What about the SEVEN QUESTIONS asked by Mr. Cartujano? Can Mr. Panoncillo admit that he was not able to answer these since he gave irrelevant answers? INC members will surely say their minister gave correct answers. Yet, if we analyze the questions, was Mr. Panoncillo able to answer them?

1. Did Mr. Panoncillo provide a 3rd century manuscript with the words “MONOGENES HUIOS”? Mr. Cartujano showed a 3rd century manuscript with the words, "MONOGENES THEOS" through the projector during his first cross examination. Did Mr. Panoncillo show any 3rd century manuscript with the words “MONOGENES HUIOS”? NONE. What did Mr. Panoncillo do? He read the Jerusalem Bible (English translation) and his only answer was,"HINDI KUMO LUMA ANG MANUSCRIPTS AY YUN NA TAMA". Mr. Panoncillo did not show any book during the debate which stated the statement of textual scholars that support, “HINDI KUMO LUMA ANG MANUSCRIPTS AY YUN NA TAMA,” particularly John 1:18.

REFUTING IGLESIA NI CRISTO®-1914: DID JESUS DENY HIS DEITY IN JOHN 14:28?

By Bro. Duane Cartujano

Jesus Christ took away his being God and became humble (Philippians 2:5-8).

"You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form, he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal's death on a cross."(Philippians 2:5-8)

Jesus came here not to give glory to Himself but to the Father.

He is not like many people who give glory only to themselves.

"Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God."(John 8:54)

Another New Testament scholar used by INC ministers to twist the truth in John 10:30 is the Book of D.A. Carson on “The Gospel According to John.”

Now, will Parba, Ventilacion and other INC Ministers still accept the statement of D.A. Carson?

"At a popular level, this clause is often cited, out of context, by modern arians who renew the controversy from the early centuries that is connected with the name of Arius. In the clause before us, the father is greater that I cannot be taken to mean that Jesus is not God, or that he is a lesser God; the historical context of Jewish monotheism forbids the latter, and the immediate literary context renders the former irrelevant" (The Gospel According to John by D.A. Carson, Page 507)

I just want to quote the comment of a highly respected Christian Scholar, Norman Geisler.

"The Father is greater than the son by office, but not by nature, since both are God. Just as an earthly father is equally human with, but holds a higher office than, his son, even so the Father and the Son in the trinity are equal in essence, but different in function. "(The Big Book of Bible Difficulties, Page 420)

When INC Ministers defended their wrong interpretation of John 1:1, they gathered what the scholar Dr. Daniel Wallace said.

Now, will Parba, Ventilacion and other INC Ministers still accept the statement of Dr. Daniel Wallace?

"In this context, it is obvious that Jesus is speaking with reference to his office, not his person. That is, the Father has great rank, but the Son is no less deity than is the Father. "(Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics by Daniel Wallace, Page 111)

Dr. Daniel B. Wallace Finally Confronts the Iglesia Ni Cristo®-1914 Deceptive Literature

"The Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ) is a Filipino-based group that rejects the major tenets of the historical Christian faith.  InC, in particular attempts to deny that the deity of Christ is a biblical doctrine.  And although they view themselves as the only true church, they freely use several bona fide academic works to support their views -- in spite of the fact that the authors of such works would be appalled to learn of the abuse of their own writings. I was shocked to learn that InC members had used my Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics in support of their heterodox beliefs.  Duane Cartujano, a Roman Catholic apologist, has investigated their views.  He supplies plenty of documentation -- both quotations of the secondary literature and an exposition of the biblical text -- to refute the InC. I, for one, am glad that he has exposed this group for what it really is.  His book will serve as a welcome corrective to the deceptions of the Iglesia ni Cristo. -Dr. Daniel B. Wallace, Author of Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics, Senior Professor of New Testament Studies, Dallas Theological Seminary

Not All Images are Idols. Let’s explore Solomon’s Temple, The Tabernacle, Herod’s Temple and the Synagogue in Our Own Time -By Bro Duane

Shared from BRO. DUANE'S BLOG - THE JOURNEY OF A CHRISTIAN APOLOGIST

It is a big sin for Christians to judge their fellowmen. Reading the Bible does not allow us to judge others especially if we have not studied entirely what is written in the Bible.

I decided to review the original text in Hebrew and Greek to fully understand the Word of God since many English versions were not translated correctly from the original text.

In my 16 years of defending Christianity, I often see people who introduce themselves as Christians judging fellow Christians particularly our Catholic friends.

The reason is they have images in their chapels and homes.

Many Christians use Deuteronomy 5:7 to conclude that all images are idols.

Personally, I am not in favor of treating images as god since this is idolatry. Yet, we will find out that not all images can be called idols if we study the Bible well.

Here is one of the oldest manuscripts of Deuteronomy and if we study closely verse 7.

The Hebrew word “Elohim Acherim” refers to other gods.

Normal word order in Hebrew is for adjective to follow verb, like often in Greek, the opposite of English. Thus, “other gods” is the proper English way to translate Elohim Acherim.

The Hebrew word “Pesel” is in Verse 8 and refers to idols.

These are the verses used by our brothers about “IDOLS” so we can read the Hebrew Word Pesel.

In Deuteronomy 5: 9, there is the Hebrew word, tishtachave and here is the meaning of the related word in Hebrew word which is tishtachave.

He will bow down to worship – yishtachave
I will bow down to worship – ‘eshtachave
You will bow down to worship – tishtachavoo
They will bow down to worship – yishtachavoo
Bow Down to Worship (command, singular) – hishtachavi
Bow Down to Worship (command, plural) – hishtachavoo

She (3f sing.) will bow down to worship ” tishtachave” is the same form as You (2m sing.) will bow down to worship tishtachave Also, the context is the ten commandments: you/thou shall not.

We will discover not all images are idols.

Let us find out what can be seen inside Solomon’s temple.

King Solomon built the temple in the Bible in 960 BC. To understand its purpose, we must know that God made the world and created the rules. It was destroyed by Babylonians in 586 BC.

The temple was located on the eastern hill. It is north of the City of David where we can find the Dome of the Rock today. The temple mount was significantly smaller. Solomon made it bigger. Herod also added to the present size of the platform. It is known as Haram esh-Sharif. This is “the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite”. (2 Samuel 24:18), “Mouth Moriah” (2 Chronicles 3:1), and possibly the “Zion of the Psalms. The term belonged to the city of David.

The Temple was envisioned as the tabernacle rectangular, with a porch or vestibule facing east, a nave an inner sanctuary or Holy of Holies.

Here is the image of Solomon’s temple. We can see the images clearly.

The holiest place housed the Ark of the Covenant and two winged figures (cherubim). These were made from olive wood coated with gold stretching from wall to wall. Similar doors separated the nave from the covered entrance. Only priests were allowed to enter the Holy Place every day.

The Most Holy Place (Holy of Holies) was God’s throne room which is the meeting place. This was between the two cherubim on the mercy seat above the Ark of the Covenant. The high priest sprinkled blood on the mercy seat on the day of atonement for the sins of the people.

We can also see the illustration in the Bible clearly.

“for the altar of incense made of refined gold, and its weight; also his plan for the golden chariot of the cherubim that spread their wings and covered the ark of the covenant of the Lord.All this, in writing at the Lord’s direction, he made clear to me—the plan of all the works.”(1 Chronicles 28:18-19, NRSV)

We can read The Ark of the Covenant in Exodus 25:18-20.

“You shall make two cherubim of gold; you shall make them of hammered work, at the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub at the one end, and one cherub at the other; of one piece with the mercy seat you shall make the cherubim at its two ends. The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings. They shall face one to another; the faces of the cherubim shall be turned toward the mercy seat.”(Exodus 25:18-20, NRSV)

The Ark of the Covenant was the place where God talked to Moses Exodus 25:22. It was made from acacia wood and covered with gold.

The tabernacle (the “tent of meeting”) housed the Ark. The ark was the first furniture built after God ordered Moses to build the tabernacle Exodus 25:10-22.

The ark was to be the main focus of the Most Holy Place in the tabernacle as well as the temple Exodus 40:1-21.

The Ark was placed in the most holy place and separated by a thick veil Exodus 26:31-33.

According to scholars, when the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem (586 BC) and plundered the temple, the ark could have been taken by Nebuchadnezzar and destroyed, or hidden by Levites.

Here is the Tabernacle

The tabernacle was a transferable “tent of meeting” that God commanded Moses to build Exodus 25:1-2, 25:8-9. God wanted to live with the Israelites. He had fellowship with them and communicated with them.

“There I will meet with you, and from above the mercy seat,from between the two cherubim that are on the ark of the covenant, I will deliver to you all my commands for the Israelites.”(Exodus 25:22, NRSV)

The tabernacle was the place that God dwelt with his people for 4000 years. This was from the exodus until the time of King Solomon when the temple was constructed.

The tabernacle was at the heart of the Israelite camp. The 12 tribes of Israel encamped around it. The figures in the boxes refer to the number of males (20 years and above) in each tribe numbers 1-3.

Here is Herod’s Temple

Scholars pointed at the illustration of Herod’s temple.
 

Here is the illustration of Herod’s temple and other details when Jesus was still on Earth.

It is different from Solomon’s Temple.

It started in 20 BC. Herod’s new structure was 15 stories high and followed floor dimensions of the former temples in the Holy Place and the Most Holy Place.

According to the Book written by Bruce Metzger, The Oxford Guide to People and Places of the Bible in page 308.

Within this holy place, there were increasingly sacred areas; the court of the women at the east, the court of the priest, then the temple (naos). This area was separated from the women’s court, being 15 steps higher, and could be entered through the nicanor gate. Only the priests could enter the temple, and only the high priest could enter the holy of holies, and that only on the day of atonement.

The whole structure was destroyed by the Romans in Ad 70.

Are there images in Herod’s temple like what we see in Solomon’s Temple?

According to the Babylonian Talmud.

“There were no cherubim in the temple of Herod, but the walls were painted with figures of them (Babylonian Talmud Yoma 54a).”

For our information, the Talmud is the anthology of the historic rabbis “discussing” or “debating” what the Torah means. The Talmud’s two elements are Mishnah (Hebrew: משנה, c. 200 CE), which is a written account of Rabbinic Judaism’s Oral Torah (Talmud means “instruction” in Hebrew)

Are There Images in the Synagogue?

Synagogue comes from the Greek term that means “house of assembly.” In Hebrew, the word used is “beit k’nesset.” It means house of assembly. English-speaking people do not translate it or use the Hebrew. They use an anglicized Greek word, synagogue.

According to a respected and famous Jewish scholar, Professor Lawrence Schiffman (leading scholar of ancient Judaism):

“Some synagogues have two lions above the ark and one of the interpretations of this imagery is that it represents the cherubim. There are certainly no sculpted images in synagogues.”

We can see inside the synagogue two images of lions in the upper part.

Professor Schiffman also said:

This is similar and look at the section above the ark curtain, where two lions face each other with a crown symbolizing the Torah beteen them.

Jews are more intelligent than us when it comes to the Old Testament because they know very well Hebrew.

If Deuteronomy 5:8 and Exodus 20:4 really forbid keeping images, even the Jews failed to obey this since they put images of lions inside their synagogue. Yet, they know the meaning of the Hebrew words: Elohim Acherim, Pesel and Tishtachave which we can read in Deuteronomy 5:7-9 and Exodus 20:3-5.

As a Christian, is my analysis correct that not all images are idols?

In our studies, it is very clear that some non-catholic pastors and their followers who were not able to study the Scriptures very well say all images are idols.

If we study closely, 2 noted scholars proved that not all images are idols.

1. Gleason Archer

Who is Gleason Archer?

Gleason Leonard Archer Jr. (May 22, 1916 – April 27, 2004) was a biblical scholar, theologian, educator and author. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleason_Archer_Jr.)

He is not a Catholic.

Gleason Archer wrote this in his book.

The explanation of Archer is like that of Catholics who say not all images are idols since God ordered the creation of images.

2. Norman Geisler

Who is Norman Geisler?

Norman L. Geisler is an evangelical scholar, Christian apologist, and the author/coauthor of over fifty Christian books defending the Christian faith by means of logic, evidence, and philosophy. He has also authored many scholarly articles on a wide range of theological and philosophical topics. (https://www.theopedia.com/norman-geisler)

Norman Geisler is not a Catholic.

This is what Norman Geisler said in his book.

THE CONFUSION CAUSED BY RAMIL PARBA USING HEBREW TEXT OF GENESIS 23:6 TO SHOW THE GREEK WORD, THEOS IN THE THIRD CLAUSE OF JOHN 1:1 IS NOT A NOUN BUT AN ADJECTIVE

Ni Kapatid na Duane

We can see in this video that Parba found it very difficult to distort the Bible verses using his questionable knowledge of biblical languages.

Since his explanation of John 1:1 is wrong, no New Testament scholar will agree with him that the Greek word "Theos" in John 1:1 is an adjective. He used the verse from the Old Testament where the Hebrew word, "נְשִׂיא אֱלֹהִים" or "mighty prince" in English was compared to the 3rd clause of John 1:1 "and the Word was God".

IF UNDERSTANDING OF HEBREW TEXT IS WRONG, WHAT MORE IF IT IS ABOUT SYNTAX?

When Ramil Parba read Genesis 23:6, we noticed he read the word, אֲדֹנִי (Adoni) as Adonay so he referred to Abraham as God. He was wrong from the start.

Is it right to use the Hebrew Word "נְשִׂיא אֱלֹהִים" or "n'si Elohim" from Genesis 23:6 to show that the Greek word Theos in the 3rd clause of John 1:1 is an adjective?

He used the Hebrew syntax since he wanted to rectify his wrong understanding about the Greek syntax?

שְׁמָעֵנוּ אֲדֹנִי, נְשִׂיא אֱלֹהִים אַתָּה בְּתוֹכֵנוּ--בְּמִבְחַר קְבָרֵינוּ, קְבֹר אֶת-מֵתֶךָ; אִישׁ מִמֶּנּוּ, אֶת-קִבְרוֹ לֹא-יִכְלֶה מִמְּךָ מִקְּבֹר מֵתֶךָ.

(Genesis 23:6, Hebrew Bible)

First of all, Elohim is not an adjective in Genesis 23:6. As usual, think context. Genesis is an ancient narrative, in Hebrew, written in the sixth or fifth century BCE, in formal courtly language: “a prince of God.” As opposed to ancient narrative, John (half a millennium later) is making a solemn claim, in Greek, that Jesus is God and co-eternal with God. The Hebrew and the Greek cannot be compared on equal terms. The Hittites (polytheists!) are not thinking John's "God."

John specifically and dramatically is claiming that Jesus IS GOD.

John 1:1 is Greek, while Genesis 23:6 is Hebrew; so the rules of syntax are somewhat different.

Greek syntax works different than Hebrew syntax.

Ramil Parba is trying to confuse the issue by appealing to Hebrew syntax as a way to refute a point of Greek syntax.

That would be like suggesting a point in Spanish syntax could illumine an issue in French syntax—mixing apples and oranges.

The question about the syntax in John 1:1 is Greek, so the only kind of syntactical parallels that will count must be in Greek.

REFUTING RAMIL PARBA ON JOHN 1:1 by Bro. Duane

By Bro. Duane

Let us analyze in detail. This will only show that his assessment is very inappropriate.

Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: Kaya nang suriin ito ng mga nagsipagsuri ito ang sinasabi nila about the function of the term theos or God in the third clause of John 1:1, ito ang ating mababasa sa, The Fourth Gospel: Its Significance & Environment sa page 99:

"The closing words of v.1 should be translated, 'the Logos was divine.' Here the word theos has no article, thus giving it the significance of an adjective."

My Response: We saw Ramil Parba quote the book, “The Fourth Gospel: Its Significance & Environment” which is on page 99.

Is that really written on page 99 of said book?

This is page 99 of the book mentioned by Ramil Parba.

"about the purifiying is connected with baptism, and we do know exactly what form it would take. It is introduced only to to give the Baptist the opportunity of declaring again his subordination to Jesus. The disciples of John endeavour to rouse in their master jealousy of Jesus. Probably the dispute was as to whethere Jesus baptism or John's was the more effective. vv. 31-36 are a comment and reflection of the Evangelist. All the ideas are most with elsewhere, in the other parts of the Gospel. They are suggested by the Baptist's wods in Ἐν, 27-30. "(The Fourth Gospel: Its Significance & Environment”, page 99.)

It is clear that it is not written in page 99!

--------------------------------------------------------------

Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: The term "GOD" or "Theos" in John 1:1 doesn't function as NOUN but it does function as Adjective. That is a predicative adjective and it is not a predicative nominative. the Word Was GOD. "The" is an Article. "WORD" is the subject of the clause "was" is a linking verb. "GOD" this is predicative adjective. So the "GOD" is predicative adjective because of the absence of the article."

Is it correct? No! It was very, very WRONG!

Let us answer what he said one-by-one.

Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: The term "GOD" or "Theos" in John 1:1 doesn't function as NOUN but it does function as Adjective."

My Response: This is incorrect. Theos is a noun. While adjectives (like “good,” “bad,” etc) can function in a number of ways, nouns always function as nouns (substantives). Liddell and Scott, An Intermediate Greek-English Lexicon, present no evidence of the use of θεὸς as an adjective, as follows: ὁ θεὸς, “God, in a general sense, θεὸς δώσει “God will give,” and in a particular sense, θεὸς τις “a god.” The noun, θεὸς, thus does not require a definite article to function as a noun, as follows: πρὸς θεῶν “by the gods.”

Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: That is a predicative adjective and it is not a predicative nominative. the Word Was God.

My Response: This is a misunderstanding of what a “predicate adjective” is. A predicate adjective is an adjective acting substantially (like a noun) in the predicate position. This happens when nouns or adjectives are working with equative verbs (like “was” here).

--------------------------------------------------------------

Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: Kaya nga naninindigan tayo at sinasang-ayunan yan ng ibang mga bible scholars, in fact even in the Greek Grammar talagang yung sabihin na logos dyan without the article sabi nila it functions as adjective at hindi po a noun or hindi po nominative in form.

Ramil Parba used the book of Professor Daniel B. Wallace, the Greek Grammar beyond the basics and quoted Page 269 which states.

“Such an option does not at all impugn the deity of Christ. Rather, it stresses that, although the person of Christ is not the person of the Father, their essence is identical. Possible translations are as follows:"What God was, the Word was (NEB), or "the Word was divine" (a modified Moffatt). In this second translation, "divine" is acceptable only if it is a term that can be applied only to true deity. However, in modern English, we use it with reference to angels, theologians, even meal. Thus "divine could be misleading in an English Translation. (Page 269, Greek Grammar beyond the basics, Daniel B. Wallace)”

My Response: What is the comment of a renowned New Testament scholar about this?

"I was shocked to learn that InC ministers had used my Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics in support of their heterodox beliefs."(Dr. Daniel B. Wallace, Author of Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics)

--------------------------------------------------------------

Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: Pero maliwanag dito sa sinasabi nila na the word was divine, ang sabi nila e yun ang mas angkop na pagkakasalin tulad ng binanggit nya na salin ni James Moffatt.

"The Logos existed in the very beginning, the Logos was with God, the Logos was divine."(John 1:1, James Moffatt Version)

My Response: What does the New Testament Scholar, Dr. Daniel Wallace said in his comment?

"Consequently, I have no problem translating it as ‘divine’ as long as we understand that only true deity is divine. "(Dr. Daniel B. Wallace, Author of Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics)

Now, here is my question: Is James Moffatt against Christ being God?

This is the information about James Moffatt.

James Moffatt was an orthodox Trinitarian who supported the Nicene Creed and Chalcedon Confession:

"The Word was God...And the Word became flesh,' simply means "The word was divine...And the Word became human.' The Nicene faith, in the Chalcedon definition, was intended to conserve both of these truths against theories that failed to present Jesus as truly God and truly man..." Moffatt, Jesus Christ the Same, (Abingdon-Cokesbury), 1945, p.61.

Moffatt apparently did believe that "divine" signified that Jesus was "one and the same God" with ho theos.

A Challenge of Bro. Duane to INC's Top Defender Mr. Jose Ventilacion!

My Message for Joe Ventilacion (INC™) Regarding His Education At Harvard University

Source: The Splendor of the Church Blog

When Kuya Adviser posted his article on his FB page, Ventilacion posted comments on his FB page about me. He said I was challenging him and asking questions about textual criticism and that I have to study more about this topic.

He is simply boasting that he studied at Harvard University. He posted this on his FB Page conspicuously.

I am just wondering who among bible and textual scholars from Harvard University favor the interpretation made by Jose Ventilacion.

I asked Dr. Eugene Ulrich, a former professor at Harvard University who among his colleagues do not agree with King Cyrus referring to “Bird of Prey” in Isaiah 46:11. It is clear that Ventilacion does not concur with this and instead, he makes it appear that Felix Manalo is the one just like what his Church is doing.

Here is the email response of Dr. Eugene Ulrich:

By the way, Dr. Eugene Ulrich is one of my mentors in Biblical Languages.

Now, you studied at Harvard but you did not follow your professors and mentors in textual criticism who said explicitly that Cyrus is really being referred to as the Bird of Prey in Isaiah 46:11 and yet, it is Manalo whom you are pointing at.

It is clear you studied at Harvard University not to learn from the experts and it is not for you to boast about it. So, you do not follow what you learned.

You attended the SBL Annual Meeting and you were given the go-signal by your Executive Minister, Eduardo V. Manalo.

If it was Dr. James Richard Saley who delivered the lecture and you attended that, participated and listened; is it not a slap on your face as a result of what is written in your Pasugo Magazine?

I asked Dr. Eugene Ulrich if he knows Dr. James Richard Saley. Dr. Eugene Ulrich told me they are good friends and he presumes Dr. Saley is a Protestant.

Does Dr. James Richard Saley know that you taught your listeners that Felix Manalo is the Bird of Prey in Isaiah 46:11? Can you ask him if he agrees with your interpretation? 🙂

So, Joe Ventilacion listened to a Protestant whom you addressed as Devil. And, you studied at Harvard University wherein some professors are Protestants.

I give you 2 weeks to answer my post at splendor that INC members can read. I pray that you will be enlightened as well as them someday or they will soon realize your false teachings.

Answer the following because you studied textual criticism at Harvard University:

1. Who are the Bible Professors and Textual Scholars from Harvard University favor your interpretation that Felix Manalo is the Bird of Prey in Isaiah 46:11?
2. Who are the textual scholars from Harvard University who taught you that you translated Mizrach in Isaiah 43:5 of Aleppo Codex as “Far East”? Give me the names of at least 3 textual scholars.
3. Who are the textual scholars from Harvard University whom you can prove translated the Greek word (Logos) in John 1:1 to “idea” as you did?
4. Who are the textual scholars (at least three) from Harvard University who can give testimonies that your LAMSA Translation is Accurate?

I will wait for your reply, Joe Ventilacion.

And, if you are boasting that we need to square off in a debate, do not give me any conditions that I should pay for the venue rental since there are many public venues which are free.

Just tell me when and I will submit my proposal to the nearest INC Local.

Prove that the LAMSA is accurate using Greek text and testimonies of Aramaic scholars if you are really intelligent in textual criticism and that I still need to study.

Sincerely,

Bro. Duane

Conversion Story of a Former Iglesia Ni Cristo member to Catholicism, now a Resilient Catholic Defender!

Sean Nathaniel: A Story of Family's Conversion to Catholic Faith that Rooted from Dad’s Smashing of the Virgin Mary’s Image

By: Sean Nathaniel
Source: JesusChristMinistry blog

The sequence of events pertaining to his Dad’s ultimate conversion to Catholicism is still fresh to his memories. Back then, he was eight years old and had no religion, who could not be baptized because he was not at the right age yet based on their doctrine.

Formerly his father was a baptized Catholic but converted to Iglesia ni Cristo, while her mother was a Catholic who was constrained of conversion as their marriage was not sanctioned once without their affiliation to the sect mentioned.

While it is true that they were devoted to their worship services, searching everything inscribed in the Scriptures had not driven him yet considering his age at eight so he just allowed the flow and be tied in with.

Nevertheless, he could sense that his Mom’s association and devotions were simply twisted by somebody’s arm than heartfelt.

One day, his mother turned to be sickly.

Perplexed as he was, his Dad told his Mom to see a doctor for a check up, and so she did.

Back home after her check up, he noticed from his room’s window of his teary-eyed Mom.

At about 5pm coming from the office, his Dad approached his Mom with a kiss on her cheek, offered a snack and conversed.

His Mom desired to have a vacation to see his grandmother as she missed her, which his Dad granted provided that it was only for 6 days.

Out of assertiveness, he was also given the go-ahead to so he joined the 6-day vacation.

It was Monday when they went to his Granny’s place and in high spirits because at last he would get a view of the farm for the first time.

ANG BATAYAN SA TUNAY NA IGLESIA AYON SA KOMENTO NG ISANG INC™

Epiphany Catholic Church, IL, USA (Source: Epiphany Parish)

Heto ang isa namang komento ng kaanib ng Iglesia Ni Cristo® -1914 mula sa ating post na ANG KATOTOHANAN TUNGKOL SA INK-1914.

rodel daroyMay 12, 2016 at 10:01 AM #1. Ang Cristo at mga Apostol ay matagal nang pinag pahinga ng Dios..  #2. Ang unang Iglesia Ni Cristo ay natalikod dahil pinag papatay, ang iba ay sumamba na sa mga dios-diosan na gawa sa ginto, bato, kahoy at iba pang materials... nangyari ito ng umakyat na sa langit ang Cristo,,, at ang mga apostol ay pinag pahinga na ng Dios.  #3. May sinabi ang Cristo, meron pa akong mga tupa wala sa kulongang ito, sila ay tatawagin mula sa malayo... sa maka tuwid hindi ito kasama sa mga pinag papatay at natalikod sa pananam palataya.. merong kakasang-kapanin ang Dios sa muling pag bangon ng INC sa mga huling araw,,, natural mente hindi na ang cristo yun at hindi narin ang mga apostol yun... tao na mag mumula sa sikatan ng araw o sa malayung silangan o Pilipinas,,, bakit namin natiyak na ang INC sa pilipinas nga yong tinotukoy ng Cristo? bakit? meron bang ibang bansa sa malayung silangan na doon muling bumangun ang INC? makikilala ba?  #4. Sinabi ng Cristo makikila ito sa pamamagitan ng aral na itataguyod nito,,,  #5. Isang tagapagligtas ang Cristo at isang Dios ang Ama na lumalang ng lahat ng bagay at nasa loob ng isa lamang katawan yun ang IGLESIA,,,ANG KAWAN,,, ANG IGLESIA NI CRISTO,,, colosas 1:18, gawa 20:28, roma 16:16....  Ito naman paki basa:  #6. kani no bang aral ang pag babawal ng pag-aasawa? ang pag babawal ng pagkain ng lamang kati o karne sa mga araw na bawal? at pag samba o pag luhod sa mga larawan o mga santo o mga dios-diosan? ito ang dapat mong suriin kinauukulan,,,, kung ito ba ay aral ng Dios? o aral ng Diablo? wala akong mabasa sa biblia na nangaral ang cristo ang mga apostol ng ganito,,,, at maging ang kapatid na Filix Manalo ay wala ring ganitong ipinangaral,,,,, kung gayun kaninong aral kaya ito? ikaw na ang tumimbang kinauukulan,,,  #7. ito ang hula sa Iglesiang lilitaw o lumitaw na nga sa Bansang Pilipinas,,, Awit 4:3, Isa.43:5-6, moffatt translation; Isa. 62:11-12, Gawa 20:28 Lamsa translation, ang mga aral ng Iglesiang ito ay walang pinag kaiba sa aral ng unang Iglesia na itinatag ng Cristo sa jerusalim,,, sa makatwid ang INC na lumitaw muli sa pilipinas ay ang kawan na sinabi ng cristo na mula sa malayo... makikilala sa turo at pangangaral...  mahal namin kayo,,, kaya sana pag laanan niyo ng panahun ang pagsusuri sa mga aral ng INC... salamt po rodel proud to be INC,,,

Bagamat ang mga katanungan at sariling sagot ng kaanib ng INC™ na ito ay KASING-TANDA na ng mga kabundukan, atin pa ring sasagutin upang MAIPAKITA natin sila na ang PAGMAMAHAL ng DIYOS ay PAGPAPAHAYAG ng KATOTOHANANG hindi pa nila nasusumpungan hanggang sa kasalukuyan.

#1. Ang Cristo at mga Apostol ay matagal nang pinag pahinga ng Dios..

• Ano nga ba ang pagkaunawa ng mga kaanib ng INC™ na kapag namatay na ay ALABOK na lamang daw ang isang patay ("Pagbubunyag sa Iglesia Ni Cristo", p. 110) at wala na raw itong saysay sa mundo ng mga buhay (PASUGO December 1966, p. 10). Pinagpahinga ng Panginoon ang mga Apostol ang kanilang mga katawang-lupa ngunit BUHAY NA BUHAY kapiling ang Diyos na si Jesus sa langit. Sa Mt. 22:32, bagamat MATAGAL NANG PATAY sina Abraham, Isaac at Jacob sila ay BUHAY na kapiling ng Diyos. Ganon din ang mga Apostol ni Jesus. Sa katunayan, sinabi pa ni Jesus sa mga Apostol na "mauuna siya at ipaghahanda sila ng tirahan sa langit" na kapiling Siya (Jn. 14:3).

#2. Ang unang Iglesia Ni Cristo ay natalikod dahil pinag papatay, ang iba ay sumamba na sa mga dios-diosan na gawa sa ginto, bato, kahoy at iba pang materials... nangyari ito ng umakyat na sa langit ang Cristo,,, at ang mga apostol ay pinag pahinga na ng Dios.

• Ang UNANG nagsabing NATALIKOD na GANAP ang Unang Iglesia ay HINDI si Felix Manalo kundi si JOSEPH SMITH ng Mormon. Let me quote what was written by Dr. Patrick Madrid in his article 'IN SEARCH FOR THE GREAT APOSTASY'. "The restored Church affirms that a general apostasy developed during and after the apostolic period, and that the primitive Church lost its power, authority, and graces as a divine institution, and degenerated into an earthly organization only. The significance and importance of this apostasy, as a condition precedent to the re-establishment of the Church in modern times, is obvious. IF THE ALLEGED APOSTASY OF THE PRIMITIVE CHURCH WAS NOT A REALITY, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS IS NOT THE DIVINE INSTITUTION ITS NAME PROCLAIMS"[1] (emphasis added).

KINOPYA nga ba ni Felix Manalo ang doktrina ng mga Mormons ayon sa paratag ng blog na ito? Ngunit sa ngalan ng tamang pagsisiyasat, kung NATALIKOD NA GANAP ang TUNAY na Iglesiang TATAG ni Cristo (at ito ang IGLESIA KATOLIKA), ano bang KATIBAYAN ang maaari nating PANGHAHAWAKAN upang paniwalaan natin ang ganitong mga pahayag? Meron po ba silang hawak na HISTORICAL RECORDS na nagpapatunay ng PAGTATALIKOD?

AYON kay Cristo, HINDING HINDI RAW MATATALIKOD ang kanyang TATAG NA IGLESIA. Kahit pinto pa lamang ng Hades ay HINDI makapananaig dito (Mt. 16:16-18). ISANG PANGAKO yan! Tapos dumating lang si Felix Manalo noong 1914 eh NATALIKOD NA GANAP na raw ito? Inabot pa ng ISANG LIBO'T SIYAM NA RAAN AT LABING PITONG TAON (1,914) bago nalaman ni Cristo na NATALIKOD na pala ang Iglesiang TATAG niya at KAILANGAN ng isang Felix Manalo para 'itatag' muli tulad ng sinabi sa PASUGO Agosto 1971, p.22? Konting sentido comon naman po mga G. Rodel.

Sa katunayan, ayon na rin sa inyong OPISYAL na MAGASING PASUGO, ay HINDI nga NATALIKOD o HINDI PA NATATALIKOD ang tunay na Iglesia-- ang Iglesia Katolika.

PASUGO Mayo 1968, p. 5: "Ano ang katangian ng maging Tupa ni Cristo? Sa Juan 10:28 ay ganito ang sabi: 'At sila'y binigyan ko ng walang hanggang buhay, at kailanma'y hindi sila malilipol, at hindi aagawin ng sinuman sa aking kamay'. Isang dakilang kapalaran ang maging Tupa o Tauhan ni Cristo sapagkat sila'y binibigyan niya ng walang hanggang buhay at hindi sila malilipol kailan man." 

PASUGO Hunyo 1940, p. 27: "Papaano ang pag-aalaga at pag-iingat sa pananampalataya? Wala tayong dapat gawin kundi manatili sa mga aral ng Dios na ating napag-aralan. Ito ang ginawa ng unang Iglesia. Sila'y nanatiling matibay sa aral ng mga Apostol. Ganito rin ang dapat nating gawin."

PASUGO, Abril 1966, p. 46: “Ang totoo hanggang sa kasalukuyan ay patuloy na ginagawa ni Satanas ang pagpapasok ng mga maling aral sa Iglesia Katolika na sa pasimula'y siyang Iglesia ni Cristo. Sadyang matalino at tuso ang diablo. Hindi niya ginawang biglaan ang pagtalikod sa Iglesiang itinayo ni Cristo noong unang siglo."

Mayron pa ba akong dapat pang ipaliwanag tungkol sa "PAGTALIKOD NA GANAP" daw ng TUNAY na Iglesia ni Cristo? Malinaw na siguro ito mula sa inyong official magazine.

Balik Islam Robert Ibrahim Macabulos (Muslim) Converted to Catholicism

Thanks to the Splendor of the Church blog for sharing this conversion story.
Published March 14,2016
Interviewed by Atty. Marwil Llasos, OP



#KnowTheTruth #TVMariaPh #TVMaria

Muslim Defenders shamed themselves in a Public Debate with Catholic Defenders!

For the sake of non-Filipinos who are watching this video, this Muslim was so arrogantly claiming  HE KNEW ARABIC very well, but when being asked by the Catholic Defender to EXPLAIN in PURE ARABIC the meaning of "Alif namin" he immediately withdrew from the debate saying "I don't know."

The Muslim man clearly was pissed off. He cannot accept the painful rebuttal of the Catholic Defender. Instead, he forced the moderator to finish the debate... The Muslim man claimed he knows Arabic but non of the questions he could explain in pure Arabic. Now, the easiest way to save himself from public humiliation is to RUN because they really do not know ARABIC...

Bottom Line: MUSLIMS ARE UNABLE TO DEFEND THEIR FAITH IN PURE AND SIMPLE EXPLANATION!

RUN and HIDE! #ProDeoEtEcclesia #ToGodAndTheChurch!

"Aba GINOONG Maria" - ang PINAGMULANG ng "GINOO" bilang bati kay Birheng Maria: Paliwanag ng WIKApedia

Matagal-tagal niyo nang binastos ang Mahal na Ina. Ang ilang mangangaral daw ay siyang mga nanguna sa pangungutya sa pagbati kay Inang Maria ng "GINOO" dahil sa kanilang kamang-mangan. Ngayon, napagtanto niyo na ba kung gaano katuso ang mga mangagaral ng walang karunungan?! Time to junk those fake preachers and teachers!

Ngayon, may panahon pa kaya kayo para ipangalandakan ang KAMANG-MANGAN niyo?!

The Ang Dating Daan "BREAD" Invasion of the Pontifical Catholic University of Santo Tomas

Just like the Iglesia Ni Cristo® (INC™) of Felix Manalo, the group of Eliseo Soriano, the fugitive preacher accused of molesting and raping male members of his church, the Ang Dating Daan® are now within the grounds of the Pontifical University of Santo Tomas in Manila, Philippines with their society known as BREAD (Bible Readers Society)! Saving Catholics from the "clutches of paganism" is the ultimate call of their cult leader, and thus the "BREAD" public display at the UST ground is their response to that call. 

Let's STOP them!

With the strong presence of Catholic Faith Defenders in Manila, thanks to Fr. Abe Arganiosa and Atty. Marwil Llasos, OP, and CFD Metro Manila elected officers, it will not be so long that the growing and enthusiastic Catholic Faith Defenders (CFD) will soon be engaged with Soriano's youth (student) group and their anti-Catholic teachings will be exposed to the shame of Eliseo Soriano and his cohorts!  

PRO DEO ET ECCLESSIA!

Banner of ADD students in UST (Source: Facebook Page)

They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity--for "people are slaves to whatever has mastered them." -2 Pet. 2:19

Former Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) - Alfie Angeles - Bumalik sa pagiging Katoliko

Isang malaking PASABOG ng isang DATING IGLESIA NI CRISTO na ngayo'y BUMALIK sa INANG IGLESIA! Salamat po kay Bro. Atty. Marwil Llasos, OP at mga kasamahan sa TV Maria at KNOW THE TRUTH sa kanilang talino at dedikasyon sa pagpapalaganap ng pananampalatayang Katoliko.

An Open Letter to All Catholics: Beware of the Iglesia Ni Cristo® or INC™

Dear all Catholics,

Do you have a relative, classmate or a friend who is a member of the cult called “Iglesia ni Cristo”? There are a lot of things you need to know about this cult because someday, if you join this cult it will turn you to someone you are not. It will make you an unreasonable false accuser. Members of Iglesia ni Cristo are required to invite non-members to visit the nearest INC chapel. They usually don’t discuss doctrines with you but rather, they will let you go to their nearest local for you to hear their teachings. They want you to go to their chapel not only because of their teachings but also for you to see the beauty of their chapels, discipline and brotherhood but do not be deceive, the devil do not appear to you in red tall horn with fire but they will appear to you as everything you want. There are some things that you should know before you accept any invitation for their Bible Lesson and that is to study you Catholic Faith. One of the weaknesses of those Catholics or even devout Catholics who left the Catholic Church and joined INC is the lack of explanation behind the mysteries of the Catholic Faith. As a result, they will believe whatever the INC ministers about Catholicism and they are speechless and unable reason out because of their lack of knowledge about Catholic Faith. Some will unreasonably attack INC with lack of knowledge about the Catholic Faith, as a result a persecutor of INC becomes an INC member. You do not want to happen to yourself.

This is what will happen if you will accept an invitation from Iglesia ni Cristo.

“The Name Game”

You will sit and listen to the INC ministers reading the Bible from one verse to another and talks about salvation and the life of man and it’s ending is for you to know that the name of the Church that can save you written in the Bible is “church of Christ”(Acts 20:28 Lamsa only) and it is also the name of their church “Iglesia ni Cristo”, therefore you must join INC in order to be saved. Do not be deceived, what is written in the Bible is the church is necessary for salvation and whoever will enter it and obey the commandments of God will be saved. If you follow the line of thinking of INC ministers, you would drink the contents of a bottle labeled as “drinking water” without thinking if it’s water or not. There is only one church built by Christ and Christ promised that it will last forever. He said “I am always with you until the end of time” c.f (Matt 28:20). Only the Catholic Church is the church that exists from the 1st century until today. Therefore, the church which Christ built is the Catholic Church. It is also Traditional, St. Ignatius a student of St. John the Apostle named the church “Catholic Church”. The church built by Christ was mentioned by many names, the name “church of Christ” is only a descriptive name of the church built by Christ. If you read the Catechism of the Catholic Church, you’ll see that it was also used to refer the Catholic Church

Catechism of the Catholic Church 811 "This is the sole Church of Christ, which in the Creed we profess to be one, holy, catholic and apostolic…"

Iglesia ni Kristo in the Philippines is only built in 1914 by Felix Manalo. It is so unreasonable to join a church because you can find its name in the Bible especially it can be read in Lamsa Version. Do not join INC just because you think that you do not belong to the “Church of Christ”, you are already in the Church of Christ, the original one the Catholic Church which was protected by God for almost 2000 years.

“The Apostasy”

The name game is not enough to convince you so probably you will raise the questions,

“What happen to the church which Christ built”?

“Why the Catholic Church is not the true church’?

The INC ministers will quote some Bible verses that speak about apostasy where members of the church will abandon the true faith and some were killed to prove that the church which Christ built was gone after the end of the 1st century. However, it only speaks about the individual members of the church not the church itself, that’s what apostasy means. Whenever a person abandons his faith, he is an apostate and committed apostasy. They are trying to prove that apostasy is fulfilled by the Catholic Church because the Catholic Church invented many doctrines by the council. One thing that they failed to understand about the church build by Christ is it was likened as a mustard seed (Matt 13:31-32). The kingdom of God which is the church will grow and will undergo development. Its development can be seen in the book of Acts where they gather together and had a council to settle a doctrine ( see Acts 15), that’s why the development of the Church doctrine is also through a council. And it cannot teach wrong doctrines

Apostasy is the opposite of the promises of Christ:

Christ promised the he will be with his church until the end of time - Matthew 28:20

Christ promise that the gates of hell shall not prevail against it – Matt 16:18

Christ promise that he will send his Counselor to be with his church forever - John 14:16-18

Christ promised that the church will be guided into all truth - John 16:13

And according to Paul, the glory of the church will last to all generations forever and ever. - Ephesians 3:20-21

Apostasy is the weakness of all their teachings. If you can refute it, the rest of their teachings cannot stand especially about the doctrine about of Last Messenger.

“The Error of Bible Alone”

Iglesia ni Kristo believes that the Bible alone is the sole basis of faith. If it’s not written in the Bible, they will reject it. By nature we Catholics believe that the Bible is the word of God. There are some Catholics falsely believe that the teachings of God are all written in the Bible alone and this becomes an advantage for the INC ministers. Ministers will show Catholic teachings that are not found in the Bible such the term “Trinity” “Purgatory” and even the word “Catholic”. This is one thing that every Catholics should understand the Catholic Church do not use the Bible alone as the basis of faith, but also in Traditions (2 Thess. 2:15) and “Magisterium” which is also known as “teaching authorities” (Mat 16:18;Matt 18:18). The doctrinal terms may not found in the Bible but its definition is found there, therefore it is Biblical, Catholic means “universal, all nations” it is the idea of Christ about the Church. “make disciples of all nations” (Matt 28:19) ” The belief of Bible alone is not biblical and ironically, the term “Bible Alone” is nowhere found in the Bible. If they are consistent with their belief that they reject everything that is not written in the Bible, they should reject the doctrine about “Last Messenger”, such term is not found in the Bible.

“A personal interpretation”

INC ministers will appear in Americana suit while holding the Bible. This is a powerful way for you to believe that what they preach to you is the WORD OF GOD. But keep in mind that the Word of God was already preached by the Catholic Church long before the Bible was finished. When the author of the book of Revelations was still writing in 100AD, the Catholic Church is already on its 5th pope, St Evaristus. The Bible was collected, recognized, canonized and preached by the Catholic Church long before Felix Manalo was born. So whenever you hear an INC preach, what he preached is nothing but a personal and absurd interpretation of Felix Manalo of the Bible yet it is very convincing if you don’t read the Bible or you did not study about the Catholic Faith and its history. Like, protestant preachers, they believed that they only preach what is written in the Bible and they don’t use their own words but that is not true. Every preacher must have always an interpretation whether it’s from him or from the others.

‘’The Image Worship”

INC ministers accuse the Catholics for worshiping idols, and they want you to accuse the Catholics too and they do it through using Catholic Book. Two things are needed to know here:

a. Religious images of the Catholic Church are not idols. Idols means false gods and the INC ministers are aware that Catholic Church teaches only one God, the Holy Trinity and calling the images of the Catholic Church as idols is already an intellectual dishonesty, which means INC ministers are aware that they are lying.

b. Kneeling does not always mean worshiping; kneeling is also a sign to show honor, respect and sincerity. In fact, during ordination, ministers are kneeling in front of Manalo yet they deny they are not worshipping Manalo. With that, we can conclude that INC ministers are contradicting themselves from what they say with what they do.

There are a lot of Catholic book to know the teachings about the Catholics Church and it is unwise to study the truth about Catholicism from an anti-Catholic.

These are only few things to learn for before you visit an INC chapel. You may appreciate their financial management, you may appreciate their unity brother hood and discipline which they are so proud of but do not accept their Bible interpretation. “We should respect other people as persons made in the image of God, but this does not mean that we allow their false teachings to propagate. Charity demands that we correct errors and proclaim the truth. The salvation of souls is at stake. If a sheep falls in a ditch, we must lift it out. If a man falls into error, we must help him recognize his folly.. For a man is more valuable than a sheep”. –Dr. Quirino M. Sugon

If you are searching for more info about the Catholic Faith, just kindly visit the following site:

http://www.catholic.com/

http://www.thecatholictreasurechest.com/

http://www.apologete.com/

http://www.splendorofthechurch.com.ph/

Equip yourself with enough knowledge about Catholicism before you visit INC so that you might know that the church needs you. You need to learn about your Catholic Faith not only for yourself or to challenge debates, but for your Catholic Brothers and sisters so that they too may understand behind the mystery of the Catholic Faith. If you find it hard to understand the Catholic Teachings, keep on going and have faith because even the apostles too were having difficult times understanding Christ yet they still follow him.The term "cult" may a little bit hard for them but for 100 years INC referred as idolaters and pagans. God bless.

Your Brother in Christ,

Gab

by Riel Lopez (Catholic Lay Apologist)

ANG 25 PANDOKTRINA NG IGLESIA NI CRISTO-1914 - by Kuya Adviser

Since the Iglesia Ni Cristo® does not translate their registered name to English even in their English articles, so I decided to retain the terms "Iglesia Ni Cristo" in the English translation of Kuya Advier.

ANG 25 PANDOKTRINA NG IGLESIA NI CRISTO-1914

BY: Kuya adviser CFD

MGA KAPANALIG, NARITO PO ANG 25 LESSONS OF INC-1914 INDOCTRINATION.

ITO PO ANG KANILANG ITINUTURO AT ITINATANIM SA ISIPAN NG KANILANG PROSPECTED CONVERTS.

ANG GALIT AT TAHASANG PANINIRA SA SANTA IGLESIA KATOLIKA. ATIN PONG TUNGHAYAN.

1. Sa biblia nakasulat ang mga salita ng Dyos.

(The words of God are written in the Bible)

2. Ang tunay na Diyos na dapat kilalanin at sambahin ayon sa inituturo sa biblia ay ang Ama na lumalang ng lahat ng bagay.

(The true God that should be recognize and worship that is from the bible is the Father who created all things.)

3. Hindi totoong pare-parehong sa Diyos ang lahat ng mga Iglesia.

(It is not true that all churches belongs to God)

4. Utos ni Cristo na ang sinumang ibig maligtas ay dapat na maging Iglesia ni Cristo.

(It is Christ's commandment that whoever wants to attain salvation should join the Iglesia Ni Cristo)

5. Ang dahilan kung bakit ang kinagisnan natiy Iglesia Katolika at hindi Iglesia ni Cristo.

(The reason why we grow up with Catholic Church and not the Iglesia Ni Cristo)

6. Ang mga aral ng Diyos na tinalikuran ng Iglesia Katolika.

(The Commandments of god that the Catholic Church turned away)

7. Si Cristo ang nagtayo ng Iglesia ni Cristo sa Pilipinas.

(Christ is the founder of the Iglesia Ni Cristo in the Philippines)

8. Si kapatid na Felix Manalo ang sugo ng Diyos sa mga huling araw.

(Bro. Felix Manalo is god's last messenger)

9. Ang dahilan ng pag uusig sa mga Iglesia ni Cristo at ang kapalaran ng maninindigan.

(The reason why the members of the Iglesia Ni Cristo are persecuted and the fate of whoever will stand in faith)

10. Ang marapat na pag-anib sa Iglesia ni Cristo.

(The proper way of joining the Iglesia Ni Cristo)

11. Ang mga katangian ni Kristo at ang kanyang tunay na kalikasan.

(True nature of Christ)

12. Ang pagkakaiba ng Diyos at ni Kristo at ang mga patotoo ng biblia na hindi si Kristo ang tunay na Diyos.

(Distinctions of God and Christ, and the proofs in the bible that Christ is not the "true God")

13. Mga maling paggamit at mga maling salin ng talata ng biblia ang batayan ng mga nagtuturong si Cristo ang tunay na Diyos.

(Wrong usage and wrong translation of verses in the bible is the basis of those who preach that Christ is God)

14. Pananagutan ng mga kaanib sa Iglesia ni Cristo ang pagbabagong buhay.

(Iglesia Ni Cristo members are responsible to have a renewed life)

15. Pananagutan sa Diyos ng mga Iglesia ni Cristo ang pagdalo sa bawat araw ng pagsamba sa Iglesia.

(It is a responsibility of every Iglesia Ni Cristo member to God to attend in worship services to the church)

16. Ang Diyos ang may utos ng pag-aabuloy, pagpapasalamat at paghahandog.

(Offerings and thanksgiving are commandments of God)

17. Utos ng Diyos ang pag-iibigang magkakapatid.

(Love one another is God's command)

18. Ang Diyos ang nagbabawal ng pagkain ng dugo at ng pag-aasawa sa hindi kapananampalataya.

(Prohibition of eating of blood and interfaith marriage are God's commandments)

19. Dapat pabautismo upang maging alagad ni Cristo.

(One should be baptized to be a disciple of Christ)

20. Dapat magmisyon ang bawat isang Iglesia ni Cristo at matuto ng pananalangin.

(Every Iglesia Ni Cristo member should do missionary works and should learn how to pray)

21. Dapat na nakatala ang bawat isang Iglesia ni Cristo at nasasakop ng Pamamahala.

22. Aral ng Diyos ang pagkakaisa ng Iglesia ni Cristo.

(Unity in the Iglesia Ni Cristo is God's command)

23. Sa araw ng paghuhukom magaganap ang pagkabuhay na mag uli ng mga patay at ang pagmamana ng mga Iglesia ni Cristo.

(In the day of Judgment will happen about the resurrection of the dead and the inheritance of the members to God's promises)

24. Dapat magdaan sa pagsubok upang malaman kung talagang tunay at tapat ang pananampalataya.

(One should experience trials/tests to know if they have a real and true faith)

25. Mga pangkalahatang tagubilin

(overall instructions)

AYAN PO. ANG 25 LESSONS NG PANDOKTRINA NG INC-1914. KUNG NAPAPANSIN NYO PO, TUMBOK NA TUMBOK ANG SANTA IGLESIA KATOLIKA NA SIYANG TANGING IGLESIA NA TINITIRA NG MGA MINISTRONG BAYARAN NG INC-1914.

IMBES NA ANG ITURO NILANG DOKTRINA AY ANG MGA SALITA NG DIYOS, AY PANINIRA, GALIT, AT PANGHUHUSGA LABAN SA SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO ANG GINAGAWA NILANG PUNDASYON UPANG ANG ISANG TAONG NAGPAPADOKTRINA AY TULUYAN NG MAPOOT AT TULUYAN NA RING TUMALIKOD SA SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO.

KUNG NAPAPANSIN NYO PO, LAHAT NG MGA NASA LISTAHAN NG PANDOKTRINA NA ITO AY WALA SA BIBLIYA.

AT KAILANMAN AY HINDI DAPAT GANITO ANG GINAGAWA NILA KUNG TUNAY NGA SILANG KAWAN NI CRISTO.

DAHIL ANG ATIN PONG PANGINOON AY HINDI NAGTUTURO KAILANMAN NG PAGKAPOOT SA KAPWA, BAGKUS AY ANG ITUNURO NIYA AY PAWANG PAG-IBIG NG DIYOS!

Mateo 22:37-39

37 At sinabi sa kaniya, Iibigin mo ang Panginoon mong Dios ng buong puso mo, at ng buong kaluluwa mo, at ng buong pagiisip mo.

38 Ito ang dakila at pangunang utos.

39 At ang pangalawang katulad ay ito, Iibigin mo ang iyong kapuwa na gaya ng iyong sarili.

NASAAN PO ANG PAG-IBIG NG DIYOS AT NG KAPWA DITO?? KUNG ANG TINITIRA MO AY ANG SIMBAHANG KATOLIKA PARA LANG MAKAAKAY KA?

GANITO PO BA ANG UTOS NI CRISTO??

HINDI PO!!

NAKALABAG PA SILA SA 10 UTOS NA DIYOS.

Exodo 20:7

Huwag mong babanggitin ang pangalan ng Panginoon mong Dios sa walang kabuluhan; sapagka't hindi aariin ng Panginoong walang sala ang bumanggit ng kaniyang pangalan sa walang kabuluhan.

Exodo 20:16

Huwag kang MAGBIBINTANG SA IYONG KAPWA.

LAHAT PO NG MGA ITINUTURO SA PANDOKTRINA AY PAWANG KASINUNGALINGAN AT PAMBIBINTANG LAMANG LABAN SA SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO. KAYA NAKALABAG NA PO SILA SA UTOS NG DIYOS NA HWAG MAMBINTANG SA KAPWA.

AT KAPAG PO NAMAN AY NATAPOS NA NG ISANG INAAKAY NA TAO ANG PANDOKTRINA NA ITO AT TOTALLY BRAINWASHED NA SA PANLILINLANG AT KASINUNGALINGAN NG MGA MINISTRO, GANITO NA PO ANG PAPAPIRMAHAN SA INAAKAY NILA:

Pinatutunayan ko na aking lubos na nauunawaan at buong pusong sinasampalatayanan at susundin ang lahat ng mga aral ng Dyos na aking narinig sa panahon ng pagdodoktrina.

(I certify that i really understand and wholeheartedly accept/have faith with and will obey all commandments of God that i heard in the time of bible studies)With the signature of the Bible student, meaning he/she AGREES with the statement above.

So, if youre interested knowing more about such things, dont hesitate to come in the locale nearest you, i know many may misunderstand the above lessons that's why it is important that you can attend bible studies in our locales.

And to the brethren, this will be a reminder for us about the lessons being taught to us, and before we get baptized, we signed the statement saying that we really understand and accept and will obey the commandments of God, in addition to that, we also recited a promise in the time of instruction of the minister to the candidates just before baptism, and we promised it to GOD, not to the "Manalo" and even to church...

AT ITO MAY OATH TAKING PA!!!

Here it is:

IGLESIA NI CRISTO

CHURCH OF CHRIST

District of _____________

MEMBERSHIP OATH

I,____________________________residing at _______________________declare the following:

That I voluntarily accept membership in the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ) motivated by faith and a pure conscience and no other purpose but to love our Lord God, our Lord Jesus Christ, and His Holy Church;

That I was taught and understand fully all the fundamental doctrines of the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ); That I faithfully received all these doctrines without any doubt whatsoever; That being a member of the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ),

I promise with all sincerity that I will submit myself to all these doctrines and discipline of the Church, and that I will fulfill all my duties and obligations; That I will accept any disciplinary action taken against me if I will be found guilty of transgressing any of these doctrines.

SO HELP ME GOD.