PASUGO: Biblical Proof that CHRIST IS GOD!

THE IGLESIA NI CRISTO's denial of Jesus' deity is nothing new under the sun.  Their opposition to Christ's deity has long been refuted by the Church Fathers and theologians both Catholics and Protestants in huge volumes of books since the CHURCH of CHRIST affirmed this doctrine in 325 AD. And as a Catholic, I am compelled to share my thoughts on this. We Catholics who love the Lord and His one true Church should never leave their lies and deceitful teachings against our Lord God Jesus Christ unchallenged.

Rejection of Christ's deity was all evident in the Bible itself. It is understandable because, among biblical personages like the prophets and sages, our Jesus Christ is UNIQUE, from Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah none of them ever claimed divinity or God himself 'manifested in the flesh'. And because Christ's claim goes against the Jewish belief in 'ONE GOD', Him being equal with God ~ and God himself makes him answerable to the Law~ The SHEMA ~ therefore He was found guilty of BLASPHEMY~ A MAN making himself GOD ~ deserving DEATH.

"The Jews answered him, 'We are not stoning you for a good work but for blasphemy. You, a MAN, are making yourself GOD.'" -John 10:33 

No doubt, as a PROPHET Jesus was loved by His own people (the Jewish people). However when he was found doing  GOD'S BUSINESS on earth such as FORGIVING sins (God alone can forgive sins Mark 2:7) or BREAKING the SABBATH laws (...the Son of Man is Lord of the sabbath (Mat. 12:1-8),  it was problematic for the Jewish authorities, for GOD ALONE is the only one who could forgive sins and not men. And for a pious Jew, braking the Sabbath Law is breaking God's law itself! By breaking the Sabbath law, Jesus was perceived not from God but as an enemy of the Jewish people.

Also very disturbing for the Jewish authorities was His claim of ETERNAL EXISTENCE ('before Abraham came to be I Am'. John 8:58).

And when He was BEFORE THE SANHEDRIN our Lord Jesus Christ then boldly proclaimed the TRUTH about HIM saying: "I AM" the MESSIAH - THE SON OF GOD and "you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the Power and coming with the clouds of heaven."(Mark 14:62)

To his horror and disgust, the High Priest of the Jewish temple TORE his sacred garments before the tribunal and PRONOUNCED his verdict against Jesus: "What further need have we of witnesses? You have heard the BLASPHEMY. What do you think?" (Mark 14:63-64). And they ALL CONDEMNED Him to DEATH!

AS GOD MANIFESTED IN THE FLESH, He raised up the DEAD, defied laws of nature, and even commanded the sea and the wind and they obeyed (Mk 4:35-41). Deeply disturbed and baffled, His disciples start questioning WHO JESUS WAS: "Who then is this whom even wind and sea obey?"  A MAN in appearance yet can COMMAND NATURE and they ABIDE?  

But the greatest thing and I would say, the most scandalous ACT OF LOVE He selflessly performed was when HE SAVED the world through his PASSION and DEATH. For a mere man SAVING mankind from the pit of damnation is not even possible. There is no other Savior but ONLY GOD ~ "I am the LORD, your God, since the land of Egypt; You know no God besides me, and THERE IS NO SAVIOR BUT ME." -Hosea 13:4. And there is no one who could give eternal life BUT God (John 17:2)

Given those Biblical facts above about our Lord Jesus Christ we, therefore, re-affirm what was affirmed in 325 AD that our LORD JESUS is GOD COMING IN THE FLESH (2 John 1:7). He is 100% MAN and 1005 GOD. DIYOS SA KALIKASAN, TAO SA KALAGAYAN!

RECYCLED ARIANISM

Aside from the Jewish authorities, in TIMELINE of Christianity, some few disillusioned people came up with the same recycled REJECTION like the Jewish authorities. Among them was ARIUS, a bishop of Alexandria (Egypt) who denied Jesus co-equal with God the Father, created and thus inferior in essence and nature. Other than Arius were Nontrinitarians such as Theonas, Secundus of Ptolemais, Eusebius of Nicomedia, and Theognis of Nicaea. Their false teachings were all condemned by the Church of Christ ~ the Catholic Church.

So that in 325 AD at the Council of Nicea, the one and only CHURCH of CHRIST which was the CATHOLIC CHURCH defended and condemned the false teachings of Arianism and finally defined and AFFIRMED the official Christian doctrine on JESUS CHRIST the SECOND PERSON of the HOLY TRINITY, true GOD and true MAN - all beautifully summarized in the Nicene Creed.

INC's teachings are hinges into two major doctrines: (1) CHRIST IS NOT GOD - ONLY A MAN and (2) THE ORIGINAL CHURCH of CHRIST (the Catholic Church) APOSTATIZED. Refuting one will make their doctrine collapse. Refuting two will make their man-founded church crumble.

Source: Pasugo.com.ph

Their Pasugo magazine was incorrect: The title should be 'THE BIBLICAL PROOF THAT CHRIST IS GOD'. The teaching of the Iglesia Ni Cristo® founded by Mr. Felix Y. Manalo in 1914 in the Philippines wasn't a secret at all. Manalo's founded church does not have an extensive and scholarly written catechism that is publicly available in print or online like the Catechism of the Catholic Church which was made available for public reading, for evangelization and teachings, for moral and practical guidance. A glimpse of their recycled Arianism can only be read in their official magazine called 'PASUGO' just like what was published online above.

No serious Christian would deny the fact that our Lord Jesus Christ was born a man. It's all there in the Bible. However, Christ being God is deeply problematic to the Jewish authorities and the Iglesia Ni Cristo® preachers.  They failed to discover it. And they refuse to see the Truth. They chose to remain blinded and are leading their own followers to fall on their own pit.

Never in John 8:40 (NKJV) was Jesus DIVINITY denied. His being a man does not deny him being DIVINE.

In fact, on the contrary, the same New King James Version of John Chapter 40:42-58 confirm HIS BEING DIVINE:

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God...”

“Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

Jesus claimed eternal EXISTENCE even before Abraham was ~ 'I AM'!

In Hos. 11:9 and Ezek 28:2 (NKJV) were quoted OUT OF CONTEXT. These verses DO NOT apply to Jesus even he was found to be a man. These verses were addressed to mortal men like us, who, by no means were creatures created by God's power and not applied to our Lord Jesus. That's becasue JESUS was NOT CREATED! He is BEGOTTEN UNCREATED Son of God.

You see the parallelism between the Iglesia Ni Cristo's argument and the Jewish people during the time of Christ, both denied Jesus' divine origin because He is a Man in appearance yet making Himself equal with God. 

Therefore let us boldly confess this truth about our Lord Jesus Christ, that He is FULLY HUMAN (John 8:40) and He is FULLY DIVINE (John 1:1). St. John the Evangelist was very consistent with this truth 'Jesus (God) coming in the flesh'! (2 John 1:7)

If John Chapter 8 ended at VERSE 40 then together with the Iglesia Ni Cristo®, we could certainly conclude the same. But the whole chapter 8 NEVER talked about Jesus 'NOT being GOD' but it talks about Jesus, eternal GOD manifested in the flesh (MAN), God - distinct from the Father, in essence, same God with the Father. 

Here is the context in John 8:
Verse 40 - Jesus, a man who told you what He heard from God
Verse 41 - The Jews said God is their "Father"
Verse 42 - Jesus said, if God is their "Father", they should believe Him because He is from God
Verse 44 - Jesus confirms that those who deny Him aren't from God but from the devil.
Verse 45 - Jesus tells the truth and those who deny him (God in the flesh) do not want to listen.
Verse 47 - He who is of God hears Him, the Word of God. He who is not from God denies Him.
Verse 56 - Jesus claimed to see Abraham (Abraham preceded Jesus in the flesh 18 Centuries)
Verse 57 - Jews understood what Jesus meant. So he was questioned 'You're not in your 50s and yet you claimed to have seen Abraham' (who was 1,767 years older)?
Verse 58 - Jesus confirmed to the Jews that BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS "I AM"! Boom!

Are we not supposed to be preaching the TRUTH about our Lord Jesus Christ?  But what the Iglesia Ni Cristo® preachers doing is exactly the opposite.  They twisted the Bible to suit their deceitful teachings and lied about our Lord Jesus Christ.  

In quoting Acts 2:22 (NKJV) these deceivers made it appear to their readers that the Apostle St. Peter was a LIAR.

They put their false understanding of Jesus into the Apostle's thoughts and then made it appears that St. Peter was their witness against Jesus' divinity. 

How could the Apostle Peter denies Jesus' divinity when he deeply knew who JESUS WAS.  And because of his deep faith conviction, he ultimately offered his own life for the sake of the Lord and His Church?!

So that in 2 Peter 1:1 he confessed our Lord JESUS is GOD AND SAVIOR!

"To those who have  obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our GOD AND SAVIOR Jesus Christ"

For thousandth times, the CATHOLIC CHURCH ~ the ONLY TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST AFFIRMS and DEFENDS this TRUTH. That our LORD JESUS CHRIST is  100% MAN – born of the Blessed Virgin Mother Mary – but NOT a 'man ONLY'!  Matthew 1:18, 20 DOES NOT DENY HIS BEING DIVINE. This verse is still in parallel with the WHOLE BIBLICA TRUTH about our Lord Jesus Christ that HE'S GOD BORN IN THE FLESH! 

A slap in the face, here is Apostle John 1:1 -3 declaring this ultimate Truth!

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  He was in the beginning with God.  All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

"And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."

Apostle John was declaring JESUS was the WORD ~ He was WITH GOD ~ and He was GOD ~ everything was created, without Him, nothing came to be. The WORD - GOD BECAME FLESH and we see His glory! The GLORY of the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON ~ JESUS CHRIST our Lord and Savior God! 

In his Second Letter (1:7) St. John warmed us:

"For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh."

THEREFORE those WHO DO NOT CONFESS GOD coming in the flesh are called  DECEIVERS!

And what shall we do to these "DECEIVERS"?

The Apostle sternly WARNED us of their coming, he said (2 John 1:8-11):

"Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward. 

"Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds."

Beware of the "DECEIVERS" Do not take them into your houses and do not greet them! That's the right thing to do!

How could Paul's Letter to the Galatians (4:4) is contextually opposed to the book of the Old Testament (Numbers 23:19) when they were written a thousand years apart?

Copying a phrase from one book and paste it to another phrase from the Bible and to form a sentence is THE WORK OF A DECEIVER!

Again Galatians 4:4 does not deny Jesus' divinity.   The truth about Him being the LOGOS ~ Word of God, God himself who became flesh can never be disproved by quoting Galatians 4:4.

God is TRUTH. Numbers 23:19 says it. God is NOT a man!  We as mortal beings can never be gods.

But GOD can be a MAN as He wishes. He is omnipotent! And when he chose to be incarnated into FLESH, He was still God! Diyos sa kalikasan, Tao sa kalagayan!

The deceivers of faith, they cannot provide a single verse from the Bible that says "JESUS IS NOT GOD". They could only assume He is not God by using verses that say Jesus was born a man!

This is a product of poor theology. That's understandable because none of the INC™ paid ministers is a theologian. With no theology of their own and no book written, their ministers heavily rely on what was written or said by other preachers and theologians during their pamamahayag. Their ministers could only explain their doctrines by demonizing Catholic doctrines. What a deceiver!

From its founder Felix Y. Manalo to his grandson Eduardo V. Manalo, none of them earned a doctorate in the field of theology and yet their copied blasphemous interpretation of the Bible against our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ is the only accepted basis for their "aral" or "doktrina".

"God from God, Light from Light" is what was affirmed by the Church of Christ at the First Council of Nicea in 325 AD. The Iglesia Ni Cristo's misinterpretation of John 8:42 was nothing but intentional deceit for deception. It was twisted so that they may justify their twisted doctrine and blaspheme our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus "proceeded forth and came from God" interpreted as a "beginning" of Christ was really misleading.  It suggests that Christ WAS CREATED.

The Bible is very clear on this issue: that Jesus (Word) was the CREATOR, not creation (All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made -John 1:3)!

These INC™ paid ministers are mocking John's theology of the Logos (Jesus the Word of God) when he said "All things were made through Him (Word), and without Him (Word) nothing was made that was made." (John 1:3) Indeed JESUS THE WORD of GOD was THE CREATOR. Jesus Christ HAS NO BEGINNING, he is THE CREATOR the beginning of everything! 

Watch brother Mario Joseph, a Muslim convert to Catholicism on JESUS - WORD OF GOD (CREATOR vs CREATION)

GOD (THE FATHER) AND JESUS THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA (First and the Last)

In ISAIAH 44:6 (NKJV) says GOD ALONE is the FIRST and the LAST and besides Him, there is NO OTHER!

"Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,

And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:

‘I am the First and I am the Last;

Besides Me there is no God."

Another compelling truth about Jesus' divinity was recorded THREE TIMES in the Book of Revelations where He proclaimed HE IS THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA - THE FIRST AND THE LAST!

Rev. 1:8 (NKJV) "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the [b]Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

Rev. 21:6 (NKJV) "And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts."

Rev. 21:13 (NKJV) "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last."

For the Iglesia Ni Cristo® and nontrinitarian sects, having the Father and the Son as both God makes TWO GODS. Adding the Holy Spirit makes THREE.  While the official teaching of the Church of Christ says there is ONLY ONE GOD and NOT three (read HOLY TRINITY)

"The whole history of salvation is identical with the history of the way and the means by which the one true God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, reveals himself to men "and reconciles and unites with himself those who turn away from sin" -CCC 234 (emphasis mine)

If Christ died, that's because He was 100% HUMAN. Yet that does not deny him being God.

As God, he has the power to lay his life and to claim it back.

“Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.  No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again." -John 10:17-18

Yes, our Lord Jesus Christ is 100% ETERNAL GOD!

He died in the FLESH as he is subjected according to the FLESH "God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh" -Romand 8:3

But Him being in the Flesh is NOT his original nature. HE'S GOD "You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world." -John 8:34

So no one is denying Jesus being human. Similarly, no one denies Him being God.  And when our Lord God, the Alpha and the Omega - the First and the Last will come again to judge the living and the dead, everyone will see Him, even the one who pierced Him! -Revelations 1:7-8

Christ recognizes God the Father as His God (Mark 15:34)! Christ recognizes God the Father as His Father and THEY ARE ONE (John 10:30)  Jews, too, recognize Jesus divinity but rejected it! (John 10:33)

'Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He (Jesus) should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.  I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do.  And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.' -John 17:1-5

And it is a blatant LIE to say that God the Father DID NOT recognize Jesus His Son. His baptism, the Father already declared Him His Son His beloved: "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased." (Matthew 3:17) And again during Jesus' transfiguration, God the Father declared the Son: "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. Hear him!" (Matthew 17:5) 

God told us to LISTEN TO JESUS and NOT to paid Ministers of the Iglesia Ni Cristo®! And if we listen to Jesus, we should listen to His original CHURCH He founded. Because His Church is the PILLAR and GROUND of TRUTH! (1 Timothy 3:15) Jesus has NOTHING to do with the Iglesia Ni Cristo® founded by Mr. Felix Y. Manalo in 1914! Do not listen to them.

I cannot find any proof in Isaiah  44:8 that says God DID NOT RECOGNIZE Jesus as God! That verse only proves our belief in ONE GOD while they believe in Three Gods

If the Prophet Isaiah would be alive today, he would have rebuked this Iglesia Ni Cristo® paid minister for LYING! "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel." -Isaiah 7:14

IMMANUEL, according to St. Matthew (1:23) means GOD WITH US! For indeed GOD was BORN to us IN THE FLESH!  God with us ~ Immanuel! (John 1:1; 14)

According to the Bible CHRIST is able to sympathize with us because HE was born LIKE US in everything EXCEPT sin!

"For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin." -Hebrews 4:15

So what's unusual to see Christ "worried" after all he is 100% human? And if God has to be less of human qualities, why is it that God has to REST after creating the entire universe in 6 days? (Genesis 2:2-3)

 In conclusion, the Bible says, 'JESUS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER' (Hebrews 13:8)! If Christ is GOD eternally from the beginning, He is God when He was born flesh and He is the same God when He will come again!

CHALLENGE TO THE IGLESIA NI CRISTO® 1914

That's why we shouldn't be wondering why Jesus ate and drink, he was tempted, he cried, he was angry, he suffered, he feared and he died ~ because HE WAS HUMAN LIKE US (born in the flesh) but NEVER in the Bible, he was said to be "NOT GOD"!

As a challenge to all paid ministers of the Iglesia Ni Cristo®, please give us the following exact words/phrase in the Bible.

1. Bible verse that explicitly denies Jesus NOT God.

2. Bible verse that the Father denied Jesus as God.

3. Bible verse that says we should recognize TWO LORDS!

4. Bible verse that says we should worship a MERE MAN aside from God the Father.

5. Bible verse that spells out Felix Y. Manalo as the 'Last Messenger of God in these Last Days."

6. Bible verse that explicitly says 'The Church of Christ will completely apostatize' and that a man from the Philippines will emerge and re-establish His Church!

7. Bible verse that explicitly says the Church would be named "The Iglesia Ni Cristo"

8. Bible verse that mandates Christians to call themselves "Iglesia"

9. Bible verse that says only members of the 'Iglesia Ni Cristo' are saved!

10. Bible verse that says 'The Bible is the sole authority" in matters of faith and morals!

REFUTING RAMIL PARBA ON JOHN 1:1 by Bro. Duane

By Bro. Duane

Let us analyze in detail. This will only show that his assessment is very inappropriate.

Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: Kaya nang suriin ito ng mga nagsipagsuri ito ang sinasabi nila about the function of the term theos or God in the third clause of John 1:1, ito ang ating mababasa sa, The Fourth Gospel: Its Significance & Environment sa page 99:

"The closing words of v.1 should be translated, 'the Logos was divine.' Here the word theos has no article, thus giving it the significance of an adjective."

My Response: We saw Ramil Parba quote the book, “The Fourth Gospel: Its Significance & Environment” which is on page 99.

Is that really written on page 99 of said book?

This is page 99 of the book mentioned by Ramil Parba.

"about the purifiying is connected with baptism, and we do know exactly what form it would take. It is introduced only to to give the Baptist the opportunity of declaring again his subordination to Jesus. The disciples of John endeavour to rouse in their master jealousy of Jesus. Probably the dispute was as to whethere Jesus baptism or John's was the more effective. vv. 31-36 are a comment and reflection of the Evangelist. All the ideas are most with elsewhere, in the other parts of the Gospel. They are suggested by the Baptist's wods in Ἐν, 27-30. "(The Fourth Gospel: Its Significance & Environment”, page 99.)

It is clear that it is not written in page 99!

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Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: The term "GOD" or "Theos" in John 1:1 doesn't function as NOUN but it does function as Adjective. That is a predicative adjective and it is not a predicative nominative. the Word Was GOD. "The" is an Article. "WORD" is the subject of the clause "was" is a linking verb. "GOD" this is predicative adjective. So the "GOD" is predicative adjective because of the absence of the article."

Is it correct? No! It was very, very WRONG!

Let us answer what he said one-by-one.

Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: The term "GOD" or "Theos" in John 1:1 doesn't function as NOUN but it does function as Adjective."

My Response: This is incorrect. Theos is a noun. While adjectives (like “good,” “bad,” etc) can function in a number of ways, nouns always function as nouns (substantives). Liddell and Scott, An Intermediate Greek-English Lexicon, present no evidence of the use of θεὸς as an adjective, as follows: ὁ θεὸς, “God, in a general sense, θεὸς δώσει “God will give,” and in a particular sense, θεὸς τις “a god.” The noun, θεὸς, thus does not require a definite article to function as a noun, as follows: πρὸς θεῶν “by the gods.”

Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: That is a predicative adjective and it is not a predicative nominative. the Word Was God.

My Response: This is a misunderstanding of what a “predicate adjective” is. A predicate adjective is an adjective acting substantially (like a noun) in the predicate position. This happens when nouns or adjectives are working with equative verbs (like “was” here).

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Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: Kaya nga naninindigan tayo at sinasang-ayunan yan ng ibang mga bible scholars, in fact even in the Greek Grammar talagang yung sabihin na logos dyan without the article sabi nila it functions as adjective at hindi po a noun or hindi po nominative in form.

Ramil Parba used the book of Professor Daniel B. Wallace, the Greek Grammar beyond the basics and quoted Page 269 which states.

“Such an option does not at all impugn the deity of Christ. Rather, it stresses that, although the person of Christ is not the person of the Father, their essence is identical. Possible translations are as follows:"What God was, the Word was (NEB), or "the Word was divine" (a modified Moffatt). In this second translation, "divine" is acceptable only if it is a term that can be applied only to true deity. However, in modern English, we use it with reference to angels, theologians, even meal. Thus "divine could be misleading in an English Translation. (Page 269, Greek Grammar beyond the basics, Daniel B. Wallace)”

My Response: What is the comment of a renowned New Testament scholar about this?

"I was shocked to learn that InC ministers had used my Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics in support of their heterodox beliefs."(Dr. Daniel B. Wallace, Author of Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics)

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Ramil Parba (INC Minister) said: Pero maliwanag dito sa sinasabi nila na the word was divine, ang sabi nila e yun ang mas angkop na pagkakasalin tulad ng binanggit nya na salin ni James Moffatt.

"The Logos existed in the very beginning, the Logos was with God, the Logos was divine."(John 1:1, James Moffatt Version)

My Response: What does the New Testament Scholar, Dr. Daniel Wallace said in his comment?

"Consequently, I have no problem translating it as ‘divine’ as long as we understand that only true deity is divine. "(Dr. Daniel B. Wallace, Author of Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics)

Now, here is my question: Is James Moffatt against Christ being God?

This is the information about James Moffatt.

James Moffatt was an orthodox Trinitarian who supported the Nicene Creed and Chalcedon Confession:

"The Word was God...And the Word became flesh,' simply means "The word was divine...And the Word became human.' The Nicene faith, in the Chalcedon definition, was intended to conserve both of these truths against theories that failed to present Jesus as truly God and truly man..." Moffatt, Jesus Christ the Same, (Abingdon-Cokesbury), 1945, p.61.

Moffatt apparently did believe that "divine" signified that Jesus was "one and the same God" with ho theos.

The Catholic Church is not even mentioned in the Bible -INC™ Ministers

I am pretty much sure there's no such words written in Mt. 16:18 as "Catholic and Apostolic church" But that does not mean the CATHOLIC CHURCH is a fake church! 

But that error does not even help them in their claim that the Iglesia Ni Cristo® is the "true" church founded by Christ.

As far as the IGLESIA NI CRISTO® is concern, they should not deny the FACT that the INC™ Hierarchy ACCEPTS the TRUTH that the CATHOLIC CHURCH is the ORIGINAL CHURCH ESTABLISHED by CHRIST and wasn't apostatized yet, thus admitting that the IGLESIA NI CRISTO® is a fake church.

If the Catholic Church is the true Church founded by Christ and it's still existing until now, then the Iglesia Ni Cristo®'s TOTAL APOSTASY doctrine simply yields to the fact that the INC™ is definitely a FAKE CHURCH.

That was recorded in their OFFICIAL MAGAZINE called PASUGO, "Hindi niya (diablo) ginawang biglaan ang pagtalikod..." referring to the Catholic Church, in 1966 was still the TRUE CHURCH, almost 52 years after the INC™ was established in Punta, Santa Ana in Manila.

PASUGO, Abril 1966, p. 46:

“Ang totoo hanggang sa kasalukuyan ay patuloy na ginagawa ni Satanas ang pagpapasok ng mga maling aral sa Iglesia Katolika na sa pasimula'y siyang Iglesia ni Cristo. Sadyang matalino at tuso ang diablo. Hindi niya ginawang biglaan ang pagtalikod sa Iglesiang itinayo ni Cristo noong unang siglo."

PASUGO July August 1988 pp. 6.

“Even secular history shows a direct time link between the Catholic Church and the Apostles, leading to the conclusion that the true Church of Christ is the Catholic Church.”

 PASUGO March-April 1992, p. 22

"The Church of Christ during the time of the Apostles became the Catholic Church of the bishops in the second century..."

INC™ member ang KRUS daw ay simbulo ni Satanas??

Taken from INC™ - Catholic Forum in Facebook "Catholic Church 33 A.D vs INC 1914 A.D."

Ginoong Gomez, alam mo ba ang mga pinagsasabi mo sa Forum? Aprobado ba ng pamunuan ng INC ang iyong mga binitiwang opinyon?

Ang mga sinabi mo ba ay ang kabuuan ng paniniwala sa loob ng INC™ ni Manalo? Tahasan mo bang inaamin na ika'y nagsasabi ng katotohanan ayon sa PANINIWALA ng buong Iglesia Ni Cristo®?

Sabi mo: "Dmo kc alam c Kristo nagtayo ng ng Iglesia noo. Pa pero bago cya napaku sa Krus sinabi na niya sa kanyang mga apostol. Na natalikod ang Iglesia dahil cla ay papatayin.at 22ong nangyari ito. Pero sinabi rn nya na ito ay muling babangon."

Nagugulat ako sa mga sinabi mo. Saan ba sinabi ni Jesus na "NATALIKOD ANG IGLESIA" (past tense)?

Ibig mo bang sabihin eh mamamatay pa lang si Cristo sa krus ay "NATALIKOD" na ang "IGLESIA"?

Maaari mo bang IBAHAGI sa amin kung SAAN ito NAKASULAT sa Biblia? Anong VERSION ng Biblia? Anong CHAPTER? Anong VERSE?

Kapag napatunayan mo 'yan, AANIB ako agad agad sa INC™ ni Manalo!

Sabi mo: "... ang krus ay simbulo ni satanas..."

Nasagot na po namin ito sa naunang artikulo na sinulat ko: "The "sign of the Cross is a mark of the Beast" says an Iglesia ni Cristo member"

Nakasulat ba ito sa Biblia?

At kung meron man, may sinabi ba talagang "ang krus" MISMO ay "SIMBULO ni satanas"?

Sabi niyo ung wala sa Biblia ay HINDI dapat paniwalaan?  Sige, hintay namin ang sagot mo para mapatunayan natin kung KARAPAT-DAPAT ka bang PANIWALAAN o hinde!

Very exciting itong naman ang napulot mong kaalaman. Ganito pala ang mga inaralan ng mga pekeng sugo!

Bagkos, ang sabi ng Biblia tungkol sa KRUS ay ganito: 1 Corinthians 1:17-23

"For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with the wisdom of human eloquence, so that the cross of Christ might not be emptied of its meaning.

"The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it (the CROSS) is the power of God. For it is written:“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,and the learning of the learned I will set aside.”

"Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith. For Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles..."

Ang KRUS daw ay KAPANGYARIHAN NG DIOS sa mga katulad NAMING ILILIGTAS!!!

Sabi ng INC™ member: "Punta ka sa loob ng mga kapilya nmin kung may makita ka na mga rebulto. Pag may makita ka bigyan kita ng 10K."

Hindi naman usapin kung nasa loob o nasa labas ang isang imahe o rebulto. Yung rebulto ni FELIX MANALO sa LABAS ng inyong CENTRAL eh INAALAYAN pa ng BULAKLAK?

Ang rebulto ba ay BATO LAMANG? Bakit KAYO  NAG-AALAY ng bulaklak sa ISANG BATO? Hindi ba kayo mga TIMAWA't NAG-AALAY sa isang MUOG na YARI sa BATO?!

Mga IPOKRITO!

Acts 20:28: "Keep watch over yourselves and over the whole flock of which the holy Spirit has appointed you overseers  in which you tend the church of God that he acquired with his own blood."

Mga Gawa 20:28 "Ingatan ninyo ang inyong sarili at ang buong kawan, sapagkat sila'y inilagay ng Espiritu Santo sa inyong pag-iingat. Pangalagaan ninyo ang iglesya ng Diyos a na kanyang tinubos sa pamamagitan ng dugo ng kanyang Anak."

O nasaan ung "IGLESIA NI CRISTO" sa Mga Gawa? Wala naman ah...

Ah... sa Lamsa Translations siguro ang tinutukoy mo.  Di naman Tagalog ang Lamsa Bible ah!

Acts 20:28 (Lamsa) "Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood."

Na mabilis namang ISINALIN ng mga Iglesia Ni Cristo® sa Tagalog para lalabas ang mga salitang IGLESIA NI CRISTO, patunay raw na NASA BIBLIA sila (and ni-capslock pa ang IGLESIA NI CRISTO sa Torch of Salvation Blog):  

Mga Gawa (salin ng mga INC™ sa Tagalog): "Ingatan ninyo kung gayon ang inyong mga sarili at ang buong kawan na rito’y hinirang kayo ng Espiritu Santo upang maging mga katiwala, upang pakanin ang IGLESIA NI CRISTO na binili niya ng kaniyang dugo.”

Bakit PINALITAN ni George Lamsa ang "church of God" sa "church of Christ" na siyang ikinatuwa ng mga kaanib ng INC™ ni Manalo? 

Sapagkat HINDI matanggap ni Lamsa na ang DIOS ay MAY DUGO. 

Hindi raw ito MAAARI sapagkat ang Dios ay walang dugo. Kaya't MAS ANGKOP daw kay "CRISTO" ang mga katagang: "...upang pakanin ang iglesia ni Cristo na binili niya ng KANYANG DUGO." Dugo raw ni Cristo 'yan at hindi ang Dios. 

Ganyan ang paniniwala kasi ni George Lamsa bilang kaanib ng ASSYRIAN CHURCH of the EAST (Sorry po mga INC™ hindi po sila aanib kahit kailan sa Iglesiang TATAG ni FELIX MANALO!).

Ano po ba kasi ang Assyrian Church of the East?

Sila po ay taga-sunod ng EREHENG si NESTOR o ng "NESTORIAN CHURCH".

Heto po ang sabi ng Wikipedia tungkol kay NESTOR at ang kanyang HERETIC THEOLOGY:

"Nestorius (386–450), Patriarch of Constantinople from 428–431. The doctrine, which was informed by Nestorius' studies under Theodore of Mopsuestia at the School of Antioch, emphasizes the disunion between the human and divine natures of Jesus. Nestorius' teachings brought him into conflict with some other prominent church leaders, most notably Cyril of Alexandria, who criticized especially his rejection of the title Theotokos ("Bringer forth of God") for the Virgin Mary. Nestorius and his teachings were eventually condemned as heretical at the First Council of Ephesus in 431 and the Council of Chalcedon in 451, leading to the Nestorian Schism in which churches supporting Nestorius broke with the rest of the Christian Church."

Kita niyo na? Ang LAMSA ay HINDI naniniwala sa pagka-DIOS ni Cristo kaya't hindi ito kataka-taka kay Ginoong Lamsa. 

Ngunit sa kasamaang-palad ay HINDI po UMANIB si Ginoong George Lamsa sa mga Iglesia Ni Cristo®. 

Romans 16:16 "Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ greet you."

Ano raw?

Ang LAHAT daw ng mga iglesia ni Cristo (hindi Iglesia Ni Cristo) ay BUMABATI sa kanya? 

Hindi ba't ito'y SULAT ni Apostol San Pablo sa Iglesia sa Roma? 

Magkaiba po ang Iglesia sa Roma sa INC sa Roma! 

Ang Iglesiang tinutukoy ni Apostol San Pablo ay ang IGLESIA SA ROMA at HINDI po ang Local ng INC sa Roma. Ang Iglesia sa Roma ay NAROON pa rin sa Roma sa kasalukuyan. Ito ang NAG-IISA, BANAL, PANGKALAHATAN (CATHOLIC) at APOSTOLIKONG IGLESIA NI CRISTO sa Roma!

Sa katunayan, halos LAHAT NG BANSA na may Iglesia Katolika ay BUMABATI nga naman sa IGLESIA SA ROMA! Tunay nga na NATUPAD sa Iglesia Katolika ang sinasaad ng Roma 16:16 "... lahat ng mga iglesia ni Cristo ay bumabati SA INYO (Iglesia sa Roma at hindi sa Pinas!)."

Ang Local na INC sa Roma ay BUMABATI sa CENTRAL nila sa PILIPINAS at HINDI sa Roma.

Heto ang nakagaya sa Apocalipe o Revelations 13:16-18

"It forced all the people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to be given a stamped image on their right hands or their foreheads[j]so that no one could buy or sell except one who had the stamped image of the beast’s name or the number that stood for its name.

"Wisdom is needed here; one who understands can calculate the number of the beast, for it is a number that stands for a person. His number is six hundred and sixty-six."

May nabasa ba kaming 'TANDA NG KRUS" sa Revelations 13? Wala naman ah.

Gawa-gawa lang kayo ng kwento palibhasa eh nag-aantanda kami ng Krus mula noo eh kami na yung pinapatungkulan ng Revelations 13... mga inaralan talaga kayo ng PEKENG SUGO!

Naku, alam na alam po namin yan. Sino naman ang Iglesia Ni Cristo® para aralan kami ng kasaysayan eh hirap pa kayong nakarating sa 100 Year Anniversary.

Pero ang HINDI namin alam ay kung SAAN ba SINABI  ni CRISTO na "NATALIKOD" ang Iglesia (past tense pa ha).  So BUHAY pa ang mga apostol ay "NATALIKOD" na ang Iglesia?

Heto ba ang mga sinasabi niyong SUMUSUNOD sa ARAL NG BIBLIA?

Mukhang hindi Biblia ang binabasa nito kundi nobela.

Di bale, di naman kami naniniwala sa mga sabi-sabi sapagkat ang sabi ni Cristo ay "HINDING-HINDI" raw po "MATATALIKOD" ang kanyang "IGLESIA".

Pangakong NAGKATOTOO!

Opo, 2,014 years na po ang IGLESIA KATOLIKA! Nakasulat po yan sa mga kalendaryong NAKASABIT sa inyong mga OPISINA sa CENTRAL OFFICE ng INC™.

The Iglesia Ni Cristo® (INC-1914) is following Pope only to Demonize him!

One Pope! Many journalists!  One guy tells something, the media will say something. One good seed sown, weeds grew and choke them. So that what's picked up by harvesters are fruits of weeds.

That's what happened to Pope Francis' comments on possible salvation of Atheists... his words were picked up wrongly and circulated misinformation which the Pope DIDN'T SAY!

What's their agenda? Well... they hated the Catholic Church.  Much  more the Pope. So even though they aren't directly interested on the Papacy and what the Pope is saying, they are very much interested on how they can distort his message and circulate misinformation.   But the TRUTH never will be heard.

The Iglesia Ni Cristo® (INC-1914) didn't spare that temptation.  The headlines in HuffPost "Pope Francis Says Atheists Who Do Good Are Redeemed, Not Just Catholics" went viral like a bushfire and was immediately picked up by anti-Catholics awaiting for an ambush to the Pope!

It wasn't surprising for the Iglesia Ni Cristo® to pick up such a juicy news because for the past 100 years of Manalo's cult, it was FOUNDED in BIGOTRY and ANTI-CATHOLIC rhetoric.  All their might, they had attacked the Church of Jesus Christ-- the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church of Christ accusing her of apostasy to accommodate FELIX MANALO's claim as "GOD'S LAST MESSENGER" which a contradiction to Christ claim to be final and climax of all prophesies.

Here is "What Pope Francis really said about atheists" from CatholicVote, let me quote the first few paragraphs by Stephen Kokx

Pope Francis raised a lot of eyebrows Wednesday after saying all people who do good works, including atheists, are going to heaven.

At least, that’s how the Huffington Post interpreted Pope Francis’ Wednesday morning homily.

Here’s what Pope Francis really said about atheists:

The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class! We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter that so much. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there. [Read more here]

Apparently, HuffPo doesn’t understand the difference between redemption and salvation because here’s how they reported on the pope’s remarks:

Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists…

Of course, not all Christians believe that those who don’t believe will be redeemed, and the Pope’s words may spark memories of the deep divisions from the Protestant reformation over the belief in redemption through grace versus redemption through works.

Reuters interpreted the pope’s comments in a similar way:

Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis said on Wednesday in his latest urging that people of all religions – or no religion – work together…

He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

“Even them, everyone,” the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. “We all have the duty to do good,” he said.

“Just do good and we’ll find a meeting point,” the pope said in a hypothetical conversation in which someone told a priest…

Francis’ reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is a marked contrast to the attitude of former Pope Benedict, who sometimes left non-Catholics feeling that he saw them as second-class believers.

No more than an hour went by and an inquisitive Presbyterian friend of mine emailed me with a link to the HuffPo story. “So doing good on its own is enough for salvation in Catholicism?” he asked. In response, I sent him two links that clarified the pope’s words.. continue reading...

The Iglesia Ni Cristo® isn't after the truth. They LIED in order to win converts. And the Father of Lies, the Deceiver is very satisfied with them. His reign resides in them for their FOUNDER FELIX MANALO is the Anti-Christ according to 2 John 1:7.

Praise God, we are Catholics! Even the Iglesia Ni Cristo® of Manalo is following him!

Sabi ng mga kaanib ng Iglesia ni Cristo nakalagay daw sa Biblia na "naitalikod" ang Unang Iglesia!

Comment from here

On the contrary, here is OFFICIALLY published in their PASUGO found at KATOTOHANAN TUNGKOL SA IGLESIA NI KRISTO 1914.

PASUGO Mayo 1968, p. 5:

"Ano ang katangian ng maging Tupa ni Cristo? Sa Juan 10:28 ay ganito ang sabi: 'At sila'y binigyan ko ng walang hanggang buhay, at kailanma'y hindi sila malilipol, at hindi aagawin ng sinuman sa aking kamay'. Isang dakilang kapalaran ang maging Tupa o Tauhan ni Cristo sapagkat sila'y binibigyan niya ng walang hanggang buhay at hindi sila malilipol kailan man."

Idaragdag natin dito ang talata 29, bilang susog sa talatang 28 na ginagamit nila, at ganito ang karugtong:

(29) "Ang aking Ama (wika niJesus), na sa kanila ay nagbigay sa akin ay lalong dakila kaysa lahat; at hindi sila maaagaw ninuman sa kamay ng Ama." Ito bang nasusulat na ito sa kanilang PASUGO ay mabubura pa nila? Gayon din itong garantiyang sinasabi ni Jesus hinggil [sa] mga magiging tauhan niya? At higit pa bang paniniwalaan natin itong mga maling aral!

At bilang kalakip nito ay sisikapin pa natin ang isang banggit na nasusulat sa PASUGO Hunyo 1940, p. 27:

"Papaano ang pag-aalaga at pag-iingat sa pananampalataya? Wala tayong dapat gawin kundi manatili sa mga aral ng Dios na ating napag-aralan. Ito ang ginawa ng unang Iglesia. Sila'y nanatiling matibay sa aral ng mga Apostol. Ganito rin ang dapat nating gawin."

Since they mentioned about the EARLY CHURCH, what do you think is the real church among the many churches today claiming to be "real" who has historical link to this FIRST CENTURY CHURCH and whom thier Ministers said "REMAINED STEADFAST" in their faith?

Let's copy from Iglesia ni Cristo's (1914) official magazine called PASUGO:

PASUGO July August 1988 pp. 6.

“Even secular history shows a direct time link between the Catholic Church and the Apostles, leading to the conclusion that the true Church of Christ is the Catholic Church.”

PASUGO Abril 1966, p. 46:

“Ang Iglesia Katolika na sa pasimula ay siyang Iglesia ni Cristo."

So we are the EARLY CHURCH!
We never apostatized and we remained steadfast in our faith.. this you INC members should do as suggested by your minister writer.
So we rest our case!
Thank you PASUGO!

SON INHERITS THE PAPAL THRONE OF IGLESIA NI CRISTO®

Very valuable comments from a user by the name Silent Crusader for members of the INC^® of Manalo at Monk's Hobbit blog:

This facts about INC is quite interesting –

SON INHERITS THE PAPAL THRONE OF INC:

Erano G. Manalo (Ka Erdy) is the fifth child of INC founder Felix Y. Manalo. He was born on January 2, 1925. He is now 80 years old. He went to college to get a degree in law but left to become a minister in his dad’s religion. His dad worked out his promotion to be the general treasurer of the church. He has never had a lack of money. The bank accounts have been flowing over by the billions of pesos. The income of Ka Erdy is a top secret.

Because he wanted the flow of information from the Church to the membership and the world to be under tight censorship, Erano was placed in the hierarchy of the church magazine Pasugo. Nothing would be written about or released concerning doctrine, faith, and practice and his father that he did not approve. Everything written in Pasugo about Felix Manalo had to pass the desk of Erano.

When it was written in Pasugo in 1976 that his father was the “seed of Abraham”, Erano approved it. It was this “seed of Abraham” doctrine that was used to claim Felix Manalo was Jesus in another form. Yes, Felix Manalo did claim he was the messiah according to Philippine court records. The INC now try to cover this up and sanitize his life history to expunge this stunning falsehood.

Church members and ministers join in choir when someone opposes their founder, his false doctrines, and their use of every perverted translation they can find to substantiate their claims. They sing their church is under attack and must stand firm and be faithful to “Brother Felix” and the doctrines of the Iglesia Ni Cristo. It is safe to say the rank and file of INC now have the persecuted syndrome and feel they must suffer martyrdom and not forsake the teachings of their founder.

COMMENT:

So Erano Manalo approved the concept that his father was the “seed of Abraham”. Wow! This is surprisingly amazing. And that Felix was the messiah. So why then did he not introduce himself to Israel so the Jews can finally rest in waiting for their messiah. But then again, he will not be accepted because the Jews expects a King that will come down to destroy the Romans but this is too late now…Felix is neither a king nor he can travel back to the time of the Roman occupation of the Jews. From being an angel (messenger) to becoming the messiah….this is truly amazing. According to the Philippine court records, Felix Manalo did really claim he was the messiah. And I think this is the reason why INC has been named Iglesia Ni Cristo or Manalo. It doesn’t really matter since Felix and Jesus is one. If Jesus is actually God, so Felix was God. He died though and never resurrected.If secretly he did ascended so is he now sitting at the right hand of the Father? I don’t know what to say at this point. Something is very very wrong here. And the INC tried to cover and sanitize this biggest lie in the history of INC. Some people had to wake up from this dream.

The heir of the papal throne of INC attacked the deity of Jesus but had no backbone to attack the falsehoods of his own father. Thus, he put his father above Christ! We can be sure the papal power to continue the same errors and heresy will fall to one of Erano’s sons when he becomes ill and unable to function or dies. I predict this will likely be Eduardo Manalo and he has probably already been secretly tapped for the throne. The central administration has no one among them worthy enough to inherit the messiahship throne. The blood lineage of the Manalo messias seed will be enforced you can count on that. Erano Manalo can boast of several things during his reign. He continued the Theodotus-Islamic doctrine that Jesus was just a man and not God. He can boast his methods caused membership and wealth increase for INC. He can take credit for the many, many, new rapture-designed buildings that were erected. He must be proud of the fact he holds great political power via the Church membership and by his coercion INC has risen to the level of a Philippine shadow government.

WHAT DO DEIST BELIEVE ABOUT JESUS AND GOD?

Deist do not view God as an entity in human form. They deny Jesus was God!

Deist view Jesus as a philosopher, rabbi, teacher and healer, but not as the Son of God.

Anyone who denies Jesus was God is of the Deist religion and Antichrist. The Iglesia Ni Cristo church denies Jesus was God therefore it is Deist. According to its founder, Jesus was no more God then he was. This is Deist and Islamic talk! Manalo’s doctrine makes himself a Son of God on the same level as Jesus. Any and all Ministers, Pastors, Evangelist, and other preachers of the Manalo Deist religion are Antichrist since they all deny Jesus was God. Is Jesus God? Read Revelation 1:8 and check out the words of Jesus himself.

The translation of this verse is as follows: I AM Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord God, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

In this one text Jesus subscribes to himself the same titles used of God in the Old Testament. If Jesus is not God, he lied when he claimed to John to be the Lord God. Jesus claims he is the LORD GOD, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the ALMIGHTY! For the Iglesia Ni Cristo group to claim Jesus was only a man is to call Jesus a liar. Who do we believe, the Iglesia Ni Cristo and the central administration or Jesus?

Erano wrote a 64 page booklet attacking the deity of Christ, “Christ-God: Investigated-False”. Anyone deceived by this book is brainwashed. The truth is, Manalo stole his anti-Jesus-God arguments from Islamic propaganda. The arguments of Erano Manalo in his writing against the deity of Jesus are right out of Islam-Jesus 101. Both Manalo’s stole the Islamic arguments that exalt Allah and make Jesus just one of several prophets.

Iglesia Ni Cristo calls God the “Father” but if pressed will admit the Father’s name is also Allah! Iglesia Ni Cristo ministers are teaching a form of Islam-Christianity to its members. All this is lacking is to call the Father Allah and say Mohammed is his prophet and they are Islamic! The conversion to Islam is not that far off and can happen overnight at any instant. If the Philippine government ever suppresses INC you can expect INC to court Islamic favor and some form of unity and immediate religious war could break out right in the nation’s capitol! In fact, in court pleadings before the Honorable Ofelia Marquez, Branch 216, Quezon City, Manila, Philippines on May 24, 2005; the lawyer for INC claims if the book: “POWER AND THE GLORY: THE CULT OF MANALO” is published, it will trigger unrest and possible violance throughout the 7000 islands of the Republic. This is a threat that if anyone makes INC, the central administration, and the members mad; they will turn to the streets and burn the nation down, which may include the killing of a lot of people! The proper response would have been for INC to publish a rebuttal, not to threaten the nation with riots, violence, and possible killing. INC has become a dangerous militant religion and the claims of the INC lawyer proves it.

One identification of a true church is the kind of preachers or teachers she has. How can shepherd takes care of the flock if he’s the first to violate God’s commands. He must practice what he preaches. And please don’t give me that usual common excuse again that they’re only humans.

SO LET’S LISTEN to Erano Manalo in his own very words about his own ministros (mang gagawa)…please listen in entirety. This is not speculation. It is the very word of INC’s papal who has described his own workers. http://youtu.be/ThKY1vC2ilk

Judge yourself… what I stated earlier: “The sin of few or many is not the sin of the church” is correct.

I wrote “few or many”…. not few only….

I would never deny that erring priest that are being reported are growing and we can speculate there are more unreported but unless they are proven we cannot judge.

So let’s watch this about the INC’s messiah or angel…http://youtu.be/Etl0JD27ChA

If this case was true then he is neither a messiah nor angel…If he is an angel then he belonged to the fallen angel group of Satan.

I’d be happy if you (INC) can dispute these two videos.